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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 4, 2011, 9:27 PM
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1989 ford E-150 5.8 battery dies
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Just want to see what you guys think it might be.
The van has a brand new battery.
If it sits for about a week the batt is stone cold dead, If i jump it and let it run for about 20min the battery is fine and starts rite back up, It will hold a charge for a few days but rite around a week of not using it it dies every time.
Thanks
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:38 AM
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Do a draw test with.. hook your test leads on your multi-tester to amps and switch to amps selector. turn off everything in van, take keys out shut the door, disconnect negative terminal and hook leads in series with the clamp and the post of the battery. allow 30mins to go into sleep mode then record reading anything over 200ma is unacceptable.. pull fuses from battery junction box till load goes and follow the affected circuit till you find the problem.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 5, 2011, 9:36 AM
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Enlighten me Z - do model years 1989 wait to "go to sleep?"
Other note: Stone dead showing zero anything is seriously hard on a lead acid battery. Till you find the draw which is too much use a floating battery charger/maintainer just $20.96 at Wallyworld! Automatically shuts on and off so you don't need to tend to it. I think it choice of 1 or 2 amp (own five) and the slow rate can actually help a weak battery for some reason. Will charge a low battery but takes overnight or 12 hours or more depending. More - charge new batteries before installation as most are not fully charged just from adding the acid done when made, not at the stores anymore.
If this only happened with this battery know that new ones can be bad and the best test like Z suggested might no show it as the drain could be from within the battery though when that happens it's usually VERY fast to burn out,
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 9:42 AM
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Not %100 sure on 89 it might still hard to say.. My resources only go back to 1991 and you do have to wait 1/2 in the 1991 van.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 5, 2011, 10:40 AM
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I've owned a bazillion 89 Fords and one now. Never had to chase a drain so plain dunno on one of these. I do know lot's of changes started in model year 1990 and we know 1996 started the OBDII thing. Near sure cars had different regulations imposed in 1990 and trucks may have had a couple more years. I have no old paper books on trucks but back to 1961 for cars. Computer? What's that? Laugh,
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 11:33 AM
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Ok cool, I'll go out and try this in a little while.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 12:04 PM
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It's just going to 1 which mean direct i think.
My meter started going out if i left it on to long.
And i did as you said, unhooked - batt cable and put the meter in series with the - cable and the - batt post.
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Hammer Time
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Apr 5, 2011, 12:09 PM
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Is your meter reading amps and can it read miliamps?
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 12:21 PM
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Yup, I had it set at 200ma and then try'd 20a.
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 3:34 PM
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you disconnected the cable right so it not touching the the post and put positive on clamp and negative on post?.. is the battery charged?. you have the positive probe in the amp slot on your meter should say somthing like 10A MAX.. make sure you have the dial on amps should say 10A max.. if you are reading nothing you have it hooked up wrong or fuse is blowen in your meter.
If you are confused about how to config your meter please take a picture or find a picture of same one and post it so I have a better idea of what type of meter you have.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 3:37 PM
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What do you mean by positive on clamp?
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 3:56 PM
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sorry meant positive probe(from meter) on negative clamp(from battery) and negative probe(from meter) to battery negative post. With the clamp disconnected.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:04 PM
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Thats exactly what i did!
And my meter just acts like it's over loaded.
Heres a pic of my meter.
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:18 PM
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Put your positive probe in the yellow slot and put it on 20A.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:21 PM
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I try'd that too when i frst try'd it the other way, Both ways were the same, the meter just said 1.
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:30 PM
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It is possible the fuse in your meter is blown. If you were on the 200ma setting and had too much current go through the meter, the fuse could blow and it would respond the way you describe. Always start on the highest setting then go to the lower.
Being way2old is why I need help from younger minds
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Hammer Time
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:31 PM
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Probably time to spring for a self ranging meter.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:36 PM
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Yeah I'd love to have one of them.
I also just try'd another meter and got the same thing.
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:41 PM
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That meter may not read between 200ma and 1 amp or you may have burned out the internal fuse in the meter by going over 20amp.
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:44 PM
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also just verifying you have it hooked up like this pictures say a thousand words. Doesn't matter what side you have it on.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:47 PM
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yup just like that.
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:54 PM
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then you have issue with meter(s) or heavy load frying the fuses in you meters. should make a good spark at the clamp when connection it back up if it's pulling that kind of juice.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:55 PM
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Yeah it does make a little bit of a spark, more then i thought was normal.
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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 4:59 PM
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Oh..yeah, this van got two batterys in it ones deep cycle.
It's a conversion van.
Could the deep cycle be pulling from the regular one if it's bad?
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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:05 PM
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well what you can do if it's heavy load is hook battery back up put you meter on DCV and measure the voltage and monitor the voltage should go up slightly when load is taken off the battery. check your starter and alternator cables. Also try disconnecting the alt cable. I've ran into some where one or more diodes in the rectifier bridge (in the alternator) are shorted making it a giant resistance to ground.
Also if it has electronic break module try disconnecting it. Best of luck
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