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zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:06 PM

Post #26 of 59 (1649 views)
Re: 1989 ford E-150 5.8 battery dies Sign In

if it has deep cycle should have isolation module some where too doesn't it?


(This post was edited by zmame on Apr 5, 2011, 5:07 PM)


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:07 PM

Post #27 of 59 (1646 views)
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Battery stays at 12.17 volts, when the engine is on it goes to 14.47.
So it's charging very well.


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:09 PM

Post #28 of 59 (1640 views)
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I have no clue about the isolation module.


zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:13 PM

Post #29 of 59 (1636 views)
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check in the camper side of the van there should be a isolation module somewhere to separate the deep cycle from the van battery.. you need to do that before you can accurately diagnose it further.


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:19 PM

Post #30 of 59 (1629 views)
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Whats it look like and what does it exactly do?


zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:23 PM

Post #31 of 59 (1627 views)
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some of the ones i've seen it's a big switch that connects your batter to van, by it's self or allows you to hook into a external source (110/220v). should be a off or isolate selection..


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:25 PM

Post #32 of 59 (1624 views)
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It has a switch you turn on to make all the conversion stuff work.


zmame
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Apr 5, 2011, 5:33 PM

Post #33 of 59 (1619 views)
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should be around there somewhere if I had to gusse.. You got to find someway to disconnect the camper from the van so you know if it's on the van side or camper side. The ones i've worked on (not many) there is a way to do it. Hard to say how your setup is everyone does something different.


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 5, 2011, 8:24 PM

Post #34 of 59 (1608 views)
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So how do i do the test if my meter wont read the amps?
I have the battery unhooked for now untill i solve the problem.


zmame
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Apr 6, 2011, 3:29 AM

Post #35 of 59 (1601 views)
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Like i said before you need to isolate your circuits you need to disconnect the camper side from the van side that will eliminate %50 of the electrical. then you will know if it's on the camper side or the van side.


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 9:32 AM

Post #36 of 59 (1594 views)
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But like i said theres a switch that turns off all the camper stuff from the van stuff.
Will that not isolate the circuits?


zmame
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:08 PM

Post #37 of 59 (1586 views)
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Well you not what you said quote: "It has a switch you turn on to make all the conversion stuff work" I didn't understand what you meant by that is that a inverter??.. try shutting the switch off and see if the still drawing heavy. If your using a volt meter if it's reading 12.15 (example) should jump up slightly with the load off like 12.6v.. if it's drawing enough to you might be able to pick it up with inductive clamp and ammeter.


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:42 PM

Post #38 of 59 (1583 views)
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I think it's fixed now.
I have it in the 140ma range now.
It turns out to be a relay on the camper side, the relay is to something that isn't even in the van anymore cause we removed it.
Should be good now rite?


zmame
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:52 PM

Post #39 of 59 (1573 views)
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yup 140ma is acceptable range.


Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:53 PM

Post #40 of 59 (1571 views)
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Great!
Thanks for all your help!Smile


Hammer Time
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:53 PM

Post #41 of 59 (1570 views)
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If you still have 140ma, that's still too much. you have to get it below 50ma or it's still going to kill the battery. Most new cars run under 35ma.



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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:57 PM

Post #42 of 59 (1563 views)
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ok, now I'm a little confused.

I was just told 140ma is fine.
Now it's not?


zmame
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Apr 6, 2011, 12:59 PM

Post #43 of 59 (1560 views)
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your right sorry.. thinking heavy truck for some reason. did you leave it in series for more then 20 mins?


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Hammer Time
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Apr 6, 2011, 1:00 PM

Post #44 of 59 (1559 views)
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No, it's not. that will kill your battery in a day or two of not driving it, possibly overnight on a weak battery.



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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 1:02 PM

Post #45 of 59 (1551 views)
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The way the van was before it would last up to a week.
So making the ma lower will drain the battery quicker?


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Apr 6, 2011, 1:04 PM

Post #46 of 59 (1548 views)
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You haven't fixed anything. You simply finally got an accurate reading on the meter. How long it lasts is determined by the strength of the battery.



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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 1:06 PM

Post #47 of 59 (1542 views)
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It has a big deep cycle batt and a regular batt.
How have i not solved anything?
It went from over loading my meter to 140ma.
If you read up a few post the other guy said 140ma was fine.


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Apr 6, 2011, 1:07 PM

Post #48 of 59 (1539 views)
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Fine, you go for it. I'm not going to argue with you.



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Timthecarguy719
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Apr 6, 2011, 1:10 PM

Post #49 of 59 (1533 views)
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I'm not arguing with you.
Why are both you guys telling me different things, thats what i want to know?
The van would hold a charge the way it was before for little over a week strait without even starting the vehicle at all.
I'm just a little nutty is all.Crazy


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Apr 6, 2011, 1:14 PM

Post #50 of 59 (1530 views)
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Quote
your right sorry.. thinking heavy truck for some reason. did you leave it in series for more then 20 mins?


(This post was edited by zmame on Apr 6, 2011, 4:54 PM)


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