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newbie needs help with starter trouble


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Jun 1, 2008, 9:43 AM

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ok my issue is i dropped the starter from a 85 firebird went to the local pick a part picked up a starter, now there starter is good we had tested it and it spinns up right away now the issue is when i took the starter out at the pick a part it came with two shims that sat between the starter and the truck, on the firebird there where no shims, so with that in mind we put the start in the firebird without the shims not the starter makes a clanking noise should i put the shims in, what i think has happend is that the starter is now sitting to high and the gears are hitting to high on each other. so my question is should i put the shims in and try or take the starter back to the pick a part and attempt a new starter


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Jun 1, 2008, 10:03 AM

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Install shims first



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Jun 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

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thank you i shall install the shims and try, another question then, is that why i get the loud noise from the starter due to not having them in and the starter then sitting to high ???? just so i know, i do have general knowlage when it comes to working on the engine but there are some things that i need to figure out, it has been a few years since i last worked on a car and haven't had to worrie about this kinda stuff but now that i am with my gf her cars are not up to snuff so i want to get them on the road without spending too much money on taking these cars in for repair, just cause well we dont have much money lol but thank you for the help


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Jun 1, 2008, 2:33 PM

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General Motors starters are notorious for needing shims. They are critical to have the proper gap between the flywheel and starter drive. Let us know how it comes out.



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Jun 1, 2008, 3:16 PM

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well at the moment the shims seem to be a little long compared to the slot in which the starter sits so i may have to shave them down a lil but what seems weird is the fact that the original starter that was in there didn't have them so that is were i have my issue, i dunno really what to do its really a horrible placement of where they had put the original one there is a overhang on the body that blocks the shim i hope i get it lol but your help is great i really apperiate it


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Jun 2, 2008, 12:20 AM

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These are both Chev small blocks right?
Found some pics for shims and that deal. Above shims may have been made up for what was found used - dunno. Can the install the other way? They should be available.


This is the idea - to have the teeth not too close or too far away from each other when engaged.

The bolt holes should line right up - those shims can be put in with one bolt loose, then move shim to line up for second bolt. Not sure why they need to be ground down to fit?? As said - will they go the other way such that the tab has room??

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