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7ele777etrik
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May 4, 2019, 11:13 PM
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Please help with codes.
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I recently bought an 05 Scion xA. Paid a mechanic $100 to check it out in his free time and said it was in good shape... He lied. Besides a butt-ton of rust covering the undercarriage, it's started throwing codes left and right just after buying it. I'm assuming he wiped the codes before selling it. Anyways, I've noticed it's starting to smell like gas and idling rough at start up. I've been told when diagnosing trouble codes, work your way to the cause, start with the simple stuff first before replacing parts but I've no clue what would be the cause or where to start. Here's the phone book of codes it's pulled: P0101 P0102 P0113 P0138 P0500 -pending codes below- P0441 P0442 P0446 I just want to make sure I don't get suckered into paying for stuff I don't need when I take it to the shop. Most of the shops in my area are very seedy and not trust worthy. I'd repair it my self but am not that knowledgeable and I live in an apartment complex with no place to work on it. I'm thinking if I had some idea of what's actually going on with the car before I go into the shop, I'll have a better chance of not being ripped off and buying stuff I don't need plus I'm sure some of these codes are just popping up due to other issues/trouble codes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. BTW I'd gladly sell it but probably not get enough to replace it, money's very tight.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 5, 2019, 2:38 AM
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Re: Please help with codes.
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Uggh! Bummer - you tried to check it out failed apparently. First thing if this is now really yours with recourse to get $$ back from seller and start over is find that gas smell about has to be a leak. Rust: Another time before you proceed with a vehicle look at best you can before even a test drive. If (I think some typo in your post about it?) there's a ton of rust seen there's lots more unseen. Just pass right then and there. If fuel odor/leak is caused by rust you may be in a never win game of expenses that are not going to end problems. Rust wins, best you do is cover it or patch it just to lose that batter again and again. That also if bad enough and can in as little as 5-6-7 years of use all the things that hold ever important wiring in place bust, wires (they rule the car) rub, burn if near hot items or moving items. Fasteners to fix something real don't work, just bust off become the problem. It really ends up the end of practical use of a vehicle Again, get or find the fuel problem maybe it will also plain run OK with just that fixed then make a move towards codes so many there probably is a problem in common that led to many like that. Money tight. Duh, that doesn't help and transportation of any sort a fast way to eat it all up. Friendly suggestion is know when to cut loses and learn from the mistakes, T
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Hammer Time
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May 5, 2019, 3:59 AM
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This is probably not as bad as it may seem. The first 4 codes could all be related. A bad or unplugged Mass Air Flow sensor could trigger all those codes. The P0500 has to do with the vehicle speed sensor which could effect trans shifting. Take a real good look around for sensors that could be unplugged and test all your fuses. The last 3 codes all have to do with the EVAP system which is vapor control for the fuel tank and won't effect driveability. Rusted out fuel lines could explain some of that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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