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Cameronl21
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Feb 3, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Hey everybody, I've got an 88 lincoln town car and I really need some advice on changing out the motor to my drivers side window. I'm hoping i can find somebody that's at least changed one out before or something I can't find any videos online or any help at all really. Anyways here's some deeper info. It's a double window, the small window rolls down first and then the main window rolls down. Up, main first then the small window. One day on my way home from work, my window got stuck down and wouldn't roll up. So i diagnosed it, the motor is bad and needs replaced. So i tore everything apart and got into it. the instructions everywhere say I'm supposed to drill three holes to get to the bolts holding the motor in and remove the motor through the speaker hole. So I've drilled the holes, removed the bolts. But the motor wont budge. The chilton manual says im supposed to pry hard to get it out since it's stuck in the down position, but it seems more like there just isn't enough room to wiggle the motor free. I've pried with all my strength and used prybars and hammers. So if anyone could tell me about their experiences with this or give me any good advice I'd appreciate it.


Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 4, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Have done dozens, own 2 right now quite familiar. Yes the dimples must be drilled out, the lower one isn't going to be covered by the panel get used to that part.


Why is motor stuck? Three bolts - count that you have all of those really out not a maybe part broken. Because this contraption of futility is one motor swaps from the slice vent to the main window there's room for lots of possible damage to what is pretty weak stuff but a strong spring that assists all this to go UP. Watch out for that it could snap or unknown how wound up a mess all the mechanisms are? They usually just come out no issue and find bad motor or the buffer gear with crushable little barrels that absorb shock should always be new if just a motor but suspect your hardware for this is in tough shape of course that window gets used the most.


Worse is they lube of one plastic roller was long gone and a felt on rubber is what really holds the glass in place long gone now.
Motor should just come out without wild hassle so wear very protective gloves if things go snap and parts go nuts!!!!


Others I've done: They were livery or limo use vehicles terribly abused the whole door wasn't worth saving! It's out of there with one plug and 6 bolts at the door hinges!


If enough trouble and car is really nice still get the whole door wait for the right color is nice you'll find it but want the entire door, all wires in place and known rust free not fixed.


Which model? Cartier and Signature there's stainless steel on the bottom the Executive there isn't otherwise the same and that can transfer not available new hard enough used.


#1 for USA or will ship anywhere for whole doors will be Baker's Auto (Lincoln's only) Rt. 44 Putnum, CT has a web site just search it out. Ask for the correct parts OE that might and likely all bent up or broken and what now aftermarket kits made probably by Ford (it's a Ford) or authorized to reproduce now.


Can't say how much just ask I seriously think it's all jammed up and broken parts involved by description. You can fix anything with the right parts and tools this might be better for whole door can be done in 1/2 hour if your have one person to help hold it and obstruction wrenches for the door hinge bolts!
Call and as if costs prohibitive for you personally. None used around me in MA just an hour from that place have done up show quality cars with NOS (new) parts some back to 1961 models only for Lincolns but the parts fit Crown Vics and Grand Marquis except the slice window unique to the Town Car, know that,


Tom



Cameronl21
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Feb 4, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Thanks for replying, I definitely have all three bolts removed from the motor. The window is stuck in the down position.its a signature series tc. I stuck a bolt through the regulator gear to keep it all from unwinding too much, i just cant figure out what I can do to make this easier. Remove the regulator housing and try to pull the window up for more room was a suggestion from my girlfriends dad but that seems like too much work. Plus like you said I don't want that coil to unwind.


Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 5, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Again - watch out for the spring! It should be loaded strong to be UP so when stuck down it's fully wound tight or broken. Might be so tight you can't remove motor yet because of that it can go "boooo-wang" as you'd expect the pressure is on the gear of the motor.
You may or may not need a motor until you really test it out.
You also can fix these just keep the left or right head part the motor can be removed and see what the story is with it. The nylon gear should have nylon barrels that bust as said meant to cushion the shock of the motor OE ones just bust with age.


Said and may be wrong most are beat up that I went for a whole door or let owner decide when these were available quick and easy used, salvage yards. Last model year for the exact door was 1989 but the concept of the motor/vent/slice window started about 1973!


Same deal but refresh to my memory you need to push the glass more DOWN not up the spring is probably already pushing UP as hard as it can or too hard. A rubber stopper should be there or gone to limit how far down it can go - the glass that is with just one metal gutter for a roller on the bottom of the main one.
Use wood or what you have not so much metal if possible and OMG keep hands away from the thing I really thing this is wound up tight and going to go nuts on you keep away from it it's STRONG! Put the bolts back in maybe just a couple turns and push down on glass if possible then see if motor will come free? It will they can survey what is damaged,


Tom



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Feb 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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As Tom advised, that regulator is spring loaded and if you were to disconnect the glass and remove the motor, it will snap so quick it will take your finger off.
There is likely pressure against the drive gear. You should be able to rotate the motor slightly to relieve that pressure. Just do not disconnect the window glass. It is the only thing stopping that regulate from jamming your fingers when you pull the motor out.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 6, 2018, 1:26 AM

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Sorry to beat on this: This mechanism needs to be known if broken or what but by strong guess since this motor doesn't just fall out there's something AFUed was happening to them when under 10 years old even then the mess was all one regulator to do both windows was installed before the door was welded together! I don't recall being able to just replace all this stuff to work again with new parts nor so sure if you had it could install all of it without unwelding the door metal?


I leave this open to as Hammer Time concurred that there's serious danger I've mentioned that spring will go off like a grenade and renders the door unusable TMK they were easy and available as said - 6 bolts and a plug off with the old on with another - almost while you wait.


Back a step: Been ages yet really do own two of these right now. Any time inside a door lube the snots out of everything as I know I can't do squat about it. Refresh - the ones busted in the first place were abused or used way too much like paying tolls (from burbs of Boston once tons of tolls) these were "Livery" cars or for personal use both the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis is the same car just used an option mechanical wing window not the slice down one sequentially.


You absolutely can lose a finger or break bones if it let's go and your hands are in there. Use wood like a hammer handle, broom stick or something NOT metal to pry on things.


This junk ( I like the cars not this design of this) is all riveted in you almost can't get stuff out without more damage for trying! Again - gave you who knows or would have parts from all over anywhere and the most NOS parts known world wide.


Links discouraged but here it is the current owner is Steve Ouellette is a multi zillion buck biz associated with Ford for parts NOS or Ford new reproduction parts.


This just their site WWW.Bakersauto.com .. Just call and ask for what current repair kit might be available to fake this or what I actually don't know.
That's the last stop or you are screwed for parts or a really good used whole door as far as I know all parts inventoried and will ship to anywhere in the world,


Tom







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