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TravisH
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Jan 14, 2017, 1:50 PM

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I was wondering if there is a way to adjust the doors on my 1976 Chevrolet truck door on driver side so it can shut without having to slam it or is this normal for this vehicle surely not.

Thanks;
Travis


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 14, 2017, 2:00 PM

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1976 GM trucks I think you could adjust the hinges to body pillar mounts and lift it up - look for 3 bolts on each side of hinge bracket and need obstruction wrenches if there. Later - much newer GM in its brilliance welds all that so wildly impossible to adjust yourself or replace if needed. Replace pins first if badly worn but it's from wear on those.


DON'T SLAM THE DOOR, LIFT IT UP SOME! That latch's bot thing it strike and locks onto could be adjusted down if seams in door to body have enough room to not rub bu that's just faking it for a short time.


Hinge pins are a pill without a helper but cheap parts. Helper to hold door while you do it - I can't do them alone nor have some magic for holding a loose door (while pins are out) to do that,


T



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TravisH
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Jan 14, 2017, 2:13 PM

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Re: 1976 Chevrolet p/u Truck Door Sign In

Thanks Tom I will take look next time I'm out at the truck what you told me. Not too familiar with adjustments on car doors but willing to give it a shot and learn. Heard of replacing door hinge pins they can be difficult from what I've been told.

Thankyou;
Travis


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Jan 14, 2017, 2:37 PM

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Travis - this is cheap and easy with some help if you can get the door off without chipping up paint there's a bronze bushing the pin goes thru comes with the kit. Door off they are a cake walk.


The bolts are the pest. IDK - I've bent cheap wrenches, timing wrenches as it's either 1/2" or 9/16th bolts. Mark the plate of the hinges if removed with a marker so you can place them back where they were exactly. If you adjust that it will some just leave most bolt loose and one barely snug and pull up on door while open and on but not open all the way.


Parts totally available. NAPA even has the selection of fixit parts at ones near me. Even the nylon little toilet roll that goes on the striker bolt or whole things as when those are gone door can sound like a trash can closing it. Those bolts come out with I think a #45 Torx head for ages of many makes. There's a plate in behind acts as the nut should not fall out of sight and does move there to adjust. Mark those too. IDK - I use that white out for paper which you can remove easily later.
Don't allow interior lights to stay on while working so defeat the switch or clamp the button to off position. Let's not add a dead battery over it.
The part that wears is the bronze thing, like a stove pipe hat in the hinge metal. You tap those out for the new ones provided in a kit which you'll see in the kit.


If power windows or locks, lights in door panel for this truck look to unplug harness inside by parking brake kick panel.


Sound like a horror just a little time and pay attention not to close door hard till it's right in correct spot or you'll really mess up paint or worse it might stick shut and not open so easily!


Got the t-shirt on all this. Just goofy asking a customer to hold the door for me for the second a whole door comes off and again back on (I always worked alone) so some help real handy.


IDK - Think I did one with a piece of wood and floor jack to hold door but pretty risky if a real nice vehicle or paint job.


All common sense hardware work barely automotive only. You might find a YouTube of how it's done - they are almost all similar in how they work,


T



Hammer Time
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Jan 14, 2017, 4:10 PM

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If the door is sagging, it is likely due to worn pins. There should never be a reason to adjust a door if there has not been a collision or impact on the door.



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TravisH
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Jan 14, 2017, 6:00 PM

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I didn't know they were using nylon bushing not sure what you called them on the striker bolt. If there ever was any nylon on the striker bolt it's long gone now. How you put it Tom sounds like a trash can is the exact description when closing the door. The door closes and shuts it's just noisy when it hits that sticker bolt making a hollow sound and the door doesn't latch all the way without a firm shut.

Thanks;
Travis


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 15, 2017, 12:33 AM

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Good luck. Parts available this stuff, door handles in and out, window crank handles and more. Adjustment works as lower pin wears first. The weight of door is down of course so never notice but hacked to do that usually last round trick to buy time and not bust even glass closing a door.


Still worn but would have to have truck upside down to notice and if so you have more problems than a door!
Not this because it's a truck. Plastic alternative is brass or bronze* sold as bearings material in hardware stores. Not a game - I've restored cars, vehicles lots older than this. * Bronze bearing material is beads of bronze shaped and full of an oil. Used for transmission or yard machines, starter motors and more still. If you have the time you can fix lots perfectly as new or just make totally functional to use up the vehicle,


T


PS note: To make as needed "obstruction" wrenches said use cheap wrenches and propane torch heat till glowing. Held in a vice and glowing tool steed will bend any which way needed but point hot part UP as heat rises while doing that if do at all. Don't let vice get hot!



TravisH
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Jan 15, 2017, 7:45 AM

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Thankyou, for the advice and input Tom. Who makes a inexpensive import wrenches anymore that's not a knuckle buster always made a point to stay away but you don't want to modify good quality ones.

Thankyou;
Travis





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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 15, 2017, 8:32 AM

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Harbor Freight on line or better in store. Also if time, yard sales, the salvage store outlets stores.


Check: You may with tools you have get at bolts if required to remove them at all. If not messed up badly you don't need to replace or touch some hinge mounts at all.


Adjustment I think was meant for collision repair to allow for super small deviations to line up more than to fake a fix that works when bushing is gone and pin wore out hinge metal.


About bending tools: For this or any reason - A box end 12 point, long wrench you can make a right angle out of the end you need and bend again to get around door skin fully open door or part way.


Why 12 point: Because you may only get a small turn at a time. 6 point may not move to where you can grab it again.


Other: If you do make a tool for this type thing if you can leave the other end of wrench you bent intact it might be possible to turn it with a good screwdriver.


Another approach is the swivel ended sockets when used though drop so can't line them up but can if you tape the swivel sometimes.


This would be auto body work but 99% you can do if creative it would just be slower.
Add: To knock out the bronze bushing can use some 1/4" sockets that fit just so at the risk of the socket being wrecked. Can buy whole sets of 1/4 junky sockets for about $5 around me so no loss.


Can't know your tool collection or cost tolerance for maybe a one time tool. I made many and will use them still though actually no longer taking on work it still chases me down for stuff like this as nobody wants to take it on!


#1 warning is chipping up a nice paint job on a real nice old something would be a disaster for high end great old vehicles or after paint (don't do that) restorations!


Tom



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Jan 15, 2017, 12:14 PM

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OK: Travis - I found a YouTube on this that isn't fair nor totally correct IMO and lacks the whole truck being together rather a demo on a wreck it seems to be with front fender removed.


The only thing WRONG is top entire hinge you probably ( can't know this) don't have to do at all and can just lube it uses one bolt from inside and a welded nut on hinge plate. The bottom pin doesn't do that and with fender on totally suggested not trying to take that off is where the likely problem is.


Means you really need that helper to move the door first before you start so you know what will need what and not get too excited till you do. It's VERY hard to look at the hinge and do the lifting of the door part opened alone and really see it.


The bushing mentioned this person is pressing in? They can tap out and tap in and if not sticky the hinge is totally junk hunt down a whole one.


IDK - first minute is all you need to see for the top bolt set up. It's a 10 minute show you shouldn't need to watch whole thing just first minute.


Bolts are in fact 9/16th - all of them. You may not need to go there at all depending on how good you are just punching out the old pin AND the bushing or what's left of it.
Not sure if this helps or scares you which could be good and just send it out to a body shop for about a while you wait fix. I'm near sure I've done bottom pins as there were many millions of this exact type sold.


Vehicle in this IMO I wouldn't fix at all - too rusty but give some clues to take under advisement some is a bit far for what I suspect only you would deal with.


Good luck. Knowing what you need first and testing that tools you have or will get first would help YOU a lot!


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Hammer Time
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Jan 15, 2017, 2:21 PM

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OK TravisH,

I have deleted your advertising and warned you twice. There won't be a third time.



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TravisH
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Jan 15, 2017, 6:47 PM

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Hammer Time I'm confused what advertising are you referring to I'm not deliberately sending any adds or advertisements. If your referring asking about perticular product or advice on what or which one to go with is advertisement well then I apologize other than that I do not know.

Sincerely;
Travis


TravisH
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Jan 15, 2017, 6:54 PM

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Thankyou, Tom for your advice and help I'll talk to some friends and take a look at the situation taking your advice and go from there.

Thankyou;
Travis


Hammer Time
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Jan 15, 2017, 6:55 PM

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Two of your posts had a bunch of brand names in a 3 line sequence at the bottom of the post. I deleted them now but you had to have posted them.



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TravisH
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Jan 15, 2017, 7:06 PM

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Are referring to a mess of gobbledygook at the bottom of the posting I sent out taking about countertop? I don't know where that junk came from thought it was normal that came up automatically when I opened up a reply to my posting there not my intent and didn't know where they were coming from just started popping up and thought they were something new. I too was wondering about them if these are what your referring to will try to be more carefull not to send them but where are they coming from is my question?


Hammer Time
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Jan 15, 2017, 7:06 PM

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Here's what it looked like






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Hammer Time
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Jan 15, 2017, 7:08 PM

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If that is popping into your reply automatically, then you have some malware on your computer.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 15, 2017, 11:51 PM

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Saw that HT and couldn't understand how that got there and not on all? Travis - run computer/device scan as HT (=Hammer Time) suggested. It can't (never say never) be something from my end? Tom







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