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elester3
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Jan 24, 2012, 1:48 PM
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transmission pan empty, even after fill. burning trans fluid w/ thick white smoke from exhaust
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2002 mercury sable, 120000 miles.
Hit a huge rock in the road, busted trans pan, drained all fluid but was stopped after the bang. Wasn't driven after. After removing old pan I saw the filter was also broken. We replaced filter, gasket, and new pan. We filled it back up with trans fluid, but still nothing. No shifting whatsoever. Thought maybe it was still low, added more and then thick white smoke came billowing from tail pipe, shut off car immediately.
Next I removed the pan to check filter was properly seated, it was, but the was little to no transmission fluid in the pan.
What could stop it from making it to pan, and what can I do about the smoke?
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Jan 24, 2012, 2:12 PM
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Check to see if you have a vacuum line going to a modulator valve. If so, pull the hose and see if there is any oil in it. That would account for the smoke but not the lack of movement so you likely have other internal damage.
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Jan 24, 2012, 7:08 PM
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Will do thank you
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Jan 24, 2012, 7:09 PM
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Re: transmission pan empty, even after fill. burning trans fluid w/ thick white smoke from exhaust
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If there is oil on it, what do I do about it?
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Jan 24, 2012, 7:11 PM
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Replace the modulator valve but that still doesn't explain the car not moving. You need to get it to a trans shop for diagnosis.
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I don't think they have vacuum modulators on those. Line pressure is controlled by the pressure control solenoid. Anything leaking from the transmission when the engine is running. Maybe fluid is leaking onto the hot exhaust pipe or cats?
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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Jan 24, 2012, 8:28 PM)
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Jan 24, 2012, 8:42 PM
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Its coming from the tailpipe. That's what I was hoping that it was dripping. But you can hear the difference in the sound of engine running.
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Jan 24, 2012, 8:43 PM
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Nothing is leaking. The fluid isn't even making it to the pan, new filter is still dry.
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Jan 24, 2012, 8:45 PM
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Where are you pouring the fluid into?
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Jan 24, 2012, 8:46 PM
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The stem for transmission dipstick
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You sure about that? How is the engine's oil level?
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Jan 24, 2012, 8:53 PM
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Positive.. not near it now to check
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Jan 24, 2012, 8:56 PM
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Just checking, because it's possible that you may be filling the wrong dipstick tube. You overfill the engine with transmission fluid and it will smoke.
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Jan 24, 2012, 9:03 PM
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I think I may have done that come to think of it. If so, oil, oil filter change, and adding to proper whole fix it? No damage?
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That will fix the engine if you happened to by accident put the transmission fluid into the engine. It may smoke for a while till it burns the transmission fluid off. The O2 sensors probably won't like that, so it's possible the O2 sensors could fail.
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Jan 24, 2012, 9:09 PM
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OK thanks for helping realize my lack of attention! Hopefully all goes well tomoro. Thanks again.. I feel foolish lol
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Jan 24, 2012, 9:11 PM
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Believe me, it happens more than you think. 
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Jan 24, 2012, 9:16 PM
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I see recommendations to do an oil flush before oil change with this issue. Would you recommend this with 6qts trans fluid, or just drain and let it burn off?
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Transmission fluid won't hurt the engine internals unless you drive around with it in there. Just do an oil and filter change and you'll be fine. Engine holds 5.8 quarts 5W-20 if you have the 3.0L DOHC and 4.5 quarts 5w-20 if you have the 3.0L OHV U motor.
Transmission takes Mercon V ATF. Look in your owner's manual and it should show you where the transmission dipstick tube is.
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Jan 24, 2012, 9:39 PM
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Thank you so much. I can't yell you how much stress you have relieved from me. It was my brothers car, just trying to help him out and I thought I did major damage. Thanks again. Karma lkes people like you.
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Jan 24, 2012, 9:42 PM
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Msg at bottom says follow up when resolved.. that mean I should post, you were right, I'm a dummy.. its fixed tomoro?
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Don't worry about it. That stuff happens. That's if that is what happened. You'll know, if you end up draining 11 quarts of oil out of the engine tomorrow. 
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Jan 25, 2012, 4:04 AM
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I guess I need to think outside the box more.
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Jan 25, 2012, 10:10 AM
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Haha it was a foolish error on my part. I've been working on my own cars since I was driving.. just trying yo do too much at once with distractions.
All is well now thanks guys!
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