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seif4280
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May 31, 2012, 8:18 PM

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I have a 94 ford ranger 4 wheel drive standard .I had my a flywheel pressure plate clutch slave cylinder replaced under 7000 miles ago. my clutch feels like the slave cylinder is not moving and has the air in the line. but I have had the slave cylinder and all hydraulic lines have checked for leaks and found no leaks. I was told that there is something in the transmission that could be causing the clutch could not disengage all the way . my stick shift is a bit sloppy . I don't see how something in the transmission to cuz of the slave cylinder not to push to throw out bearing in all the way . this is my fifth time replacing the clutch components and slave cylinder I'm out of ideas has anyone ever actually heard of something in the transmission causing this ? the guys of the shop try and make it sound like the transmission is to blame but I have no idea I've replaced the clutch myself twice before that a friend of a friends replacing it who are mechanics .but this last time I decided to break the bank and have a professional shop installed all the new components .thanks for the help.


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May 31, 2012, 9:47 PM

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So the clutch is not releasing allowing you to put it into gear with the engine running?

Has the master ever been replaced?





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seif4280
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May 31, 2012, 9:56 PM

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Yes, the master has been replaced and the line between the two too. Biggest mystery I've ever had.


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May 31, 2012, 10:12 PM

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That's a difficult one to give advice on because can't see what is going on. Our shop has had a rash of defective concentric slave cylinders from the aftermarket in the past. Stay far away from the cheap China junk.

How did the clutch fork and ball look when you had it apart last? Have you been losing any fluid in the reservoir?

The transmissions in those are notorious for leaking at the back of the shifter tower. Ford put little rubber plugs that would shrink and allow fluid to leak out. It would run the tranny dry and cause the gears to fuse together which caused all kinds of shifting problems along with major transmission damage.





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May 31, 2012, 10:19 PM

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I'm not sure what the forks are but ball at the bottom of the stick look smooth but worn and well greased. In the pass I have noticed a little tranny fluid up top like It's splashing out , but not a lot.


kensoncustom
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Jun 1, 2012, 12:05 PM

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pull short stick out of trans (shift leaver) do this by pushing retainer down and turning counter clockwise you will find shims and 2 plastic seats,these seats will deteriorate after time.
this causes a lot of shifting problems.


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Jun 1, 2012, 12:27 PM

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Thank you, I don't have any of them in here.


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Jun 1, 2012, 9:12 PM

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I don't know why I said clutch fork, because this one is concentric. Duh, sorry.

What kind of fluid did you put into the transmission?
Could be the shift rails are getting worn out and causing shifting troubles. Really hard to say what is wrong without checking it out.





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Jun 1, 2012, 9:26 PM

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no problem I've never had to add fluid to it. I think the tranny is fine, old but still good. I have noticed a change in pressure in the pedal. It's got to be 1 of the cylinders . how could something in the transmission cause of clutch not to disengage ?


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Jun 1, 2012, 9:42 PM

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Actually nothing inside the transmission itself would cause the clutch to not release. We figure since you have a sloppy shifter and having a hard time getting it into gear it would be something worn out.

If the clutch disc isn't releasing and the pedal feels mushy, then your probably on the right track with assuming there is a problem with the master or slave. As I stated, some of those cheapy aftermarket concentric slaves are crappy.





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Jun 1, 2012, 9:48 PM

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Haven't seen this problem on the Rangers, but check your firewall where the master bolts to and make sure it isn't flexing when your pressing down the clutch pedal. Also inspect the clutch pedal assembly bushings and make sure the pedal shaft isn't wobbling around.





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Jun 1, 2012, 9:49 PM

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YES! That's what I thought, the guys of the shop can't be right and probly just don't wanna admit that they put in cheap parts . thanks for confirming my suspicions about the transmission .




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