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nickwarner
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Sep 19, 2012, 6:41 PM
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If you want the same info we use, go to www.alldatadiy.com. You'll never touch a Chilton's again. They sell it by the vehicle for I think around $25 a year. For full access to every vehicle its hundreds a month. All their info is gotten directly from the OEM. We're here either way when you need us. Best bang for the buck on that trans is going to be a genuine GM crate trans. Price is actually reasonable compared to independants and its backed by a 3 year warranty. They built that trans originally, they did a lot of failure analysis and came up with a lot of updates all of which will be in that new one you get. Look into it. By the way, maybe this isn't totally free advice. Once I make 5 more posts to your threads I'm going to have to drive to IL and you owe me a beer.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 20, 2012, 5:34 AM
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Watch out MG - WI has a "food pyramid" for you waiting.......
LMAO,
T
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MarineGrunt
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Sep 20, 2012, 8:34 AM
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So that's why Nick moved to Wisconsin. With all the help you all have given me I'll drive around the country and hand deliver beers.
Are you ready for your morning laugh? Yesterday around 7:00 pm I decided to pick up the garage. He wear plate I bought was the aluminum one where you take off the old pump front and replace it with the new. I was tossing some scrap metal towards the front of the garage. I tossed the old pump front and when it hit the floor a gear fell out of it. You know that sunken stomach feeling? When I split the pump the outer pump gear stuck to the pump cover. I don't know why I didn't flip it over and look at it right when I took it off. I normally inspect things pretty good. So, instead of getting pissed at myself I just started tearing into it. It's much easier the second time. Had the t case out in about 20 minutes. I completed the whole job in about two hours. The first time I had a little trouble getting the rear housing back on. I really had to wiggle it to get it to go. I wiggled it on and pulled it off a few times and the pump hose came unseated a few times. That made me nervous when I finally put the two halves together. Last night I know for sure the house stayed on cause I didn't have to wiggle at all. So, I'm kinda glad I had to do it all again. Makes me feel better that I'm 100%kinda sure the hose stayed in place. I guess that's how things go sometimes when you're a diy guy. Practice makes perfect, right?
You can stop laughing at me now. Hana
I do have subscriptions to alldata for all my vehicles. You're right, it's much better than Chilton or Haynes. I tend to use both but often use alldata because it's much more in depth and gives you every step with pictures. For basic stuff I like having the Chilton under the vehicle with me. If I did bought a new laptop I'd probably never use the Chilton again.
As for the Venture....my buddy goes through a guy that charges a grand for tranny rebuilds. What do you think a crate tranny would cost? The Venture has around 144k on it so the cheaper the better. I want to do it right though. We're just going to use it for a mileage or vehicle. My wife and I are pretty much only going to drive it to work.
Well, time to finish cleaning the garage since I had to immediately go to something else last night.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 20, 2012, 11:29 AM
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MG - this is getting more suspenseful than the "Who Shot JR" run on Dallas!
No jokes. Look, measure + triple check stuff that can send you back to square one. Dumb crap like barely visible directional snap rings and a ton of things that can look alike and are not.
So right and of course none of us have ever done anything wrong ever in the history of mankind - choke - so beware of the two cent thing that can blow up a whole job.........
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nickwarner
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Sep 20, 2012, 2:30 PM
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Not sure about the cost for the Venture, but I was quoted $1350 from an area shop for my Suburban and the local shops estimated $1100-$1300 to build the one I have in it if I did the swing work.
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MarineGrunt
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Sep 21, 2012, 7:54 AM
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I remember watching parts of Dallas with my parents when I was a kid. It would always come on right after The Dukes of Hazard on Friday nights. I never missed an episode of the Dukes when I was a kid.
At that price I'm definitely going to check into a crate transmission. In my opinion another few hundred bucks is well worth a brand new one.
I'm glad you let me know about it.
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nickwarner
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Sep 21, 2012, 6:28 PM
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What I like with them being from GM is the updates they have come up with over the years are all included. You get the best possible transmission for your money. Local guys can be very competent, but may not have kept up on all the updates and build them the same way as they always have. They updated it for a reason obviously (look at your t-case update in fact) so they will perform better and last longer.
Was always a MacGuyver fan myself. Maybe thats what led to this line of work. Not quite as liberal with the duct tape as he is though.
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MarineGrunt
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Oct 2, 2012, 10:58 AM
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After my transfer case fell to pump run my stepdad decided to install the updated wear plate to prevent it from happening to his 2003 GMC Sierra 1 ton dually. We pulled the t-case Sunday afternoon. Once we split the case the first thing I noticed was all of the sludge around the filter of the pump pick up hose. There was so much there was noway it was pulling up any fluid. The front half of the pump had a 3" by 1/4" split in it. We then knew for sure it wasn't pulling any fluid! The shift fork was worn about 3/8" on the top of each fork. It kind of looked like it was from the chain. Due to all of the metal shavings we pulled out all of the internals to give everything a good cleaning. That's when we noticed that the drive hub, mode synchro's and the output shaft were all worn. The original metal clip that was suppose to hold the pump in place came unseated which caused the pump to wobble and eventually split. We checked prices on used transfer cases but could't find one for under $1000. We were able to find all the worn parts for around $300 but that doesn't include the output shaft. We have a buddy who owns a machine shop and has one of those flame spray welders so he's going to repair the shaft. That's a pretty slick process. I've never seen it done in person but did a search and watched a video on it. I tried talking my stepdad into replacing all bearings due to all the metal that was floating around in there but he's not going to. Oh well, it's not my truck.
It's crazy that a cheap, poor designed, $.05 clip causes the problems it does. I feel very fortunate that my did wear a hole and I was able to see it leaking before it caused any other damage besides the pinhole in the rear housing. I have been telling everyone I know about the dreaded pump rub issue with these t-cases and offering to help them fix it. I'd hate to see someone's transfer case end up looking like my stepdad's.
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nickwarner
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Oct 2, 2012, 5:42 PM
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I guarantee you not replacing those bearings is going to come back to haunt him.
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MarineGrunt
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Oct 3, 2012, 8:20 AM
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I told him pretty much the same thing Sunday. I called him this morning and talked him into it. You can get a bearing and seal kit for about $100 so I don't know why he even had to think about it and especially after he'll be putting in around $300 worth of new parts. I told him replacing all the bearings, along with the new parts, would probably guarantee that the transfer case outlasts the truck. After receiving advice about replacing the bearings in my diff I figured it would be the same deal for his transfer case.
Is there anything else you would recommend he replace? All the gears look fine. What about the chain? It didn't seem to have too much slack though.
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