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1993 Plymouth Laser Turbo manual transmission - tires turning the same way.


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Nunya
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Apr 7, 2012, 5:55 PM

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Year: 1993
Model: Plymouth Laser Turbo
Engine: 2.0
Mileage: 168,000

When I turn, the differential isn't allowing the tires to turn correctly. Is there a common reason or cause for this, or does anyone have experience with this specific model? Do I just need a new tranny?


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Apr 7, 2012, 5:58 PM

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You're going to have to describe the issue in a little more detail than that.




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Nunya
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Apr 7, 2012, 9:10 PM

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sorry about that, its kinda hard to explain, so bare with me. i bought this car as a project car there for any conditions were unknown, long story short i replaced the engine and trans out of a junkyard, the car i got the motor and trans out of was wrecked in the side and rear the front was still in tact. i got the motor and trans installed and from the beginning i knew there was a problem with the steering, i replaced the axles first didnt help i then replaced the lower control arms ball joint and sway bar links still no difference i am able to drive the car but it pulls hard to the left and the tires chirp and jump around, kinda like a posse rear end would do in a sharp turn. so i took it to an alignment shop and they were able to align the steering for me, however, when i left the shop it was still doing the same, so they pulled it back in and lifted it up by the frame and checked the rack and pinion and it checked out to be be in good shape, they continued to trouble shoot for me, and the best they could come up with was the the differential was not allowing one side to slip while the other side was being turned, basically while turning one side the other side cannot be held back and both tires will turn in the same direction,


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Apr 7, 2012, 9:16 PM

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Are you sure it's not a limited slip differential because it sounds like chattering clutches.




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Nunya
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Apr 7, 2012, 9:45 PM

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i am not sure, the only thing i know about transmissions are how to replace them, but because these trans are hard to come by, if it were chattering clutches, is this repairable,


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Apr 7, 2012, 9:48 PM

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That would be easy. Just chage the gear oil and add a bottle of friction modifier that you can buy at any auto parts store.




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Apr 7, 2012, 10:05 PM

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that would be easy not my luck, but i will try it, thanks! one last thing i was unaware that Manuel trans had clutches other than the actual clutch disc, is it possible that something is broken inside and the car would still drive


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Apr 7, 2012, 10:14 PM

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Is this AWD?





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it is not an awd


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Apr 7, 2012, 10:22 PM

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i was unaware that Manuel trans had clutches other than the actual clutch disc


We're talking about the differential, not the transmission.




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Apr 7, 2012, 10:27 PM

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i am able to drive the car but it pulls hard to the left and the tires chirp and jump around, kinda like a posse rear end would do in a sharp turn.


If it has or had limited slip, it shouldn't chatter when your going straight. The reason is that both axles are turning the same speed, so the side and pinion gears in the carrier are not turning. The only thing that could cause it to chatter and burn up a set of limited slip clutches is if one front wheel has a different diameter than the other front wheel.

Pulling to the left is strange. You get the vehicle in the air and rotate the wheels by hand? How about the motor mounts? Maybe the engine and transaxle aren't sitting right and throwing off the CV angles?





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Apr 7, 2012, 10:30 PM

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were is the differential located


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Apr 7, 2012, 10:31 PM

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in the transaxle







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Apr 7, 2012, 10:38 PM

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the tires only chirp when im turning when driving straight it rolls fine other than the pulling there is no noise at all from the trans only from the tires


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Apr 7, 2012, 10:41 PM

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is the differential repairable/replaceable without rebuilding the trans


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Apr 7, 2012, 10:42 PM

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Does it pull only when your accelerating?





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Apr 7, 2012, 10:45 PM

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no it pulls as soon as i let go of the steering wheel


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Apr 7, 2012, 11:17 PM

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I honestly never heard of a transaxle causing a steering pull. Torque steer usually only happens while accelerating or on deceleration. Usually what causes pulling is brake calipers hanging, alignment problem, or radial pull from tires.





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Apr 7, 2012, 11:21 PM

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Or maybe a limited slip with different size tires as suggested earlier.




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Apr 7, 2012, 11:55 PM

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is the the differential oil in a separate case than the trans oil


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Apr 8, 2012, 9:25 AM

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Probably not, since it's a manual transmission.




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Apr 8, 2012, 3:41 PM

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It's really hard for us to give you an accurate prognosis. All we can do is ask you questions in hopes that you'll find something wrong. Someone is going to have to really inspect everything under there to see what the heck is going on.





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Apr 8, 2012, 6:35 PM

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Ok I changed the gear oil and added the friction modifier, it seems to be better but not completely was wondering if there is a certain amount of miles before the friction modifier does its thing or is it instantly all its gonna do


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Apr 8, 2012, 6:40 PM

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Yes, it could take a few miles. As said earlier, make the your tires match and your brakes aren't dragging.




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Apr 8, 2012, 6:45 PM

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ok thank you and will let you know how it goes.




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