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replace rear wheel hubs on toyota tercel?
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AKL
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Mar 10, 2009, 3:24 PM
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replace rear wheel hubs on toyota tercel?
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When I went for a wheel alignment on my 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ hatchback, 1.5 l engine, with 62,300 miles, the service station said the alignment could not be performed because of movement in the rear wheels that indicated the rear wheel hubs were problematic. They suggested replacement.
Does this sound reasonable, given the age and mileage of the car? What if I did not have the wheel hubs replaced? Does/should the operation include replacing any bearings? How much labor (hours) should this entail? I will get 3 or 4 estimates.
I like this old, functioning, gas efficient, low maintenance Tercel, so please don't advise not wasting money on it.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 10, 2009, 4:37 PM
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I'm not sure what they found out of spec in rear of this but the rear hub is much like a common trailer on this with VERY inexpensive inner and outer bearings in each. They may need repacking and adjustment if still ok and very well could be.
Should be adjustable! Perhaps a tech didn't look close enough to know this shouldn't be using a sealed unit "hub" with bearing pressed in it type - look again.
Four of these in all. Not expensive and shouldn't be that tricky,
T
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AKL
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Mar 11, 2009, 9:26 AM
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Thanks, Tom. I'm not up to speed in auto repair terminology, so I hope I can ask for clarification. If I understand, the whole hub doesn't need replacing; and a hub with bearings sealed inside would be the wrong type anyhow. What I need is either to have the current inner and outer bearings repacked and adjusted, or have new bearings packed. But even before repacking, the tech should try to adjust the bearings. Is that correct?
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 11, 2009, 9:51 AM
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Right - this inner/outer bearing style is really not more than a brush trailer axle, small utility, boat etc., still used out there. Exact bearings are needed for each application of course. It's unusual to need all four sets of bearings and races to be done as matched sets as needed.
Simply spinning the wheel should be a good clue of bearing condition. Then - with wheel on you feel for "free play" - take dust cap off, cotter pin out and adjust - da de dah as all of those are done. It wouldn't hurt to repack them with new inner grease seal. The brake drum appears to be the hub so if terribly rusted the drum would need to go.
Once there is no freeplay the alignment reading is true to that wheel. If off by too much (judgement call by tech) the axle or something needs adjustment, bending, or possible replacement. If they're close but can't reasonably be brought into spec you can still align the car for good driveability and may have earlier tire wear on rear than you'd like but you could just make a habit of rotating the wheels a lot keeping them all even.
Note: The alignment equipment of today is highly accurate and takes ALL wheels into consideration not just the front. Unless ridiculous a happy medium should do if the rear are off and would need total axle replacement or too costly but still declared totally safe!
So in short - this is a serviceable hub/bearing deal vs sealed units that can't be adjusted or re-greased at all.
Do you have a printout of the existing alignment specs now? Machines now can print where it is and how much off making more clear with parameters of the range allowed for "perfect" on the sheet,
T
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AKL
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Mar 11, 2009, 4:22 PM
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The shop did not give me the kind of printout of the alignment specs that I usually get after each alignment because they said they could not perform an alignment at all, given the condition of the "hubs". Though I haven't noticed any problem when I drive. But thanks again for the further clarification. Now I know what to talk about when I go back to shops for estimates.
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Loren Champlain Sr
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Mar 11, 2009, 5:37 PM
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To add a note; If the wheel bearings are bad, and have been run too long, it is possible that the hubs are damaged. If the bearing race has spun in the hub, the new race won't fit tight. But, removal and inspection will be required to make this call.
Loren
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Tom Greenleaf
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I know I'm beating this horse to death but this is NBD! The whole damn drum and hub with new races is just $28.99 ea. and use old or buy just the bearings needed if at all - can't say for low mile Tercel of the age - they didn't hold up well here against rust - not much does.
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IT WILL SHOW FUNNY BELOW BUT THE DRUM IS THE HUB AS SHOWN:
Beck Arnley / Brake Drum - Rear  for a 1988 Toyota Tercel   About this product: Part Number: 080-2069 Weight: 9.65 lbs. Warranty: 3 MO Note: 2 dr. sedan; 3 dr. hatchback; 5 dr. hatchback; 2 required.  Pricing: $28.99
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You can check that yourself - it's direct from Autozone.
True - prices vary by brand, location and exact store. Shops mark up parts to retail price.
Something tells me with the age and miles it doesn't need more than a repack of rear bearings and then go for an alignment.
A repack is a separate service IMO. Just setting/adjusting them properly should be included in cost of alignments! Always was!
T
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