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PARTMAN
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Jun 11, 2010, 8:57 AM

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Smile I have a 1991 Buick Regal Ltd with the 3.1L V6. I need to smog it, but it won't pass. The NO's are too high. Everything else comes in good. I put a new Cat on it, because the last on was put on backwards by a muffler shop in Anaheim. My brother keeps telling me a MAP sensor, but he's no trained mechanic. Any suggestions??


Hammer Time
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Jun 11, 2010, 9:40 AM

Post #2 of 12 (2984 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

Did you mean the NOX or the CO



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PARTMAN
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Jun 11, 2010, 10:09 AM

Post #3 of 12 (2980 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

IT'S the NOX


Hammer Time
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Jun 11, 2010, 10:11 AM

Post #4 of 12 (2977 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

Nox is cause by excessive temperatures in the combustion chamber. The things that elevate it are, timing too far advanced (if adjustable), engine running too hot, EGR system not working properly. Someone would have to determine which of these if any apply to you.



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PARTMAN
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Jul 27, 2010, 4:39 PM

Post #5 of 12 (2933 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

 Ok. so I have now changed to EGR, spark plugs and wires. My NOX came down but still not enough. Any other suggestions would be helpful. What about an O2 sensor?


Hammer Time
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Jul 27, 2010, 4:42 PM

Post #6 of 12 (2928 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

Did you even read the advice?



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PARTMAN
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Jul 27, 2010, 4:46 PM

Post #7 of 12 (2925 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

I did. Had my mechanic check it all, but he only comes up with replacing the EGR.


Hammer Time
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Jul 27, 2010, 4:50 PM

Post #8 of 12 (2920 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

I've told you what causes NOX. Now you have to determine which one your car is experiencing. It may not be a simple as throwing parts at it and it's certainly not an O/2 sensor



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PARTMAN
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Jul 27, 2010, 5:01 PM

Post #9 of 12 (2916 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

thanks for the O2 note, back to the drawing board now


Loren Champlain Sr
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Jul 28, 2010, 5:17 PM

Post #10 of 12 (2903 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

Re-read HT's post. NOx is created from heat. The EGR system introduces inert exhaust gasses to LOWER combustion temperatures. Make sure that the EGR system is working. Just replacing the valve may or may not correct the problem. Passageway clean? Engine temperature normal? Thermostat, cooling fans, radiator, ect., must all be working properly. Low octane fuel creates heat. Excessive carbon build-up.
Loren
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PARTMAN
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Sep 9, 2010, 5:05 PM

Post #11 of 12 (2878 views)
Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

I finally got it pass the dumb state crap. Not sure what actually did it, but two cats later, aN O2 sensor, and a front fuel system clean out. All told between parts, labor, and smog checks... about $500.00. anybody what to buy it now????


Sidom
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Sep 9, 2010, 8:02 PM

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Re: Too high to pass CA smog Sign In

Hell no!!!!!! Word on the street is....that car is a smog nightmare.....Wink Sly

Glad to hear you finally got things worked.....Thx for letting us know.....






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