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LudlowLou
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May 30, 2012, 8:28 AM
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POWER WINDOW PROBLEM
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1993 Olds Ciera S, 4 door
3.3 L
All power options
101,000 miles
Recently upon starting car, driver side window failed to operate, but passenger front did. Fortunately, passenger side went back up as it was raining.
Once safely in my garage i looked more closely at this situation to find:
1. front windows do not work under any circumstances, driver side nor passenger side .
2. rear windows work only from back seat controls, but not from driver control.
Checked circuit breakers, all OK. No surprise since the rear windows were working as well as power locks.
My prior experience with power windows tells me that the driver side switch is most likely the problem.
At great effort and expense I just changed the switch without result!
Can anyone offer some advice?
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 30, 2012, 8:44 AM
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Re: POWER WINDOW PROBLEM
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I'm thinking of the age and relative low miles. Lots of getting in and out - most cars of course would be driver's door used most except a taxi perhaps.
Hmmmm - passenger's worked once more than quit - right?
I'd check power at the master switch and that each can alternate from power to ground which is up and down accordingly for the windows. If you are comfortable that related relays, fuse or what are OK and should be if rears work then if power is dropped at master where it should be it was fairly common to me anyway for wiring in door jam that bends to give out and not make the connection. Should be in a snorkel (rubber) and don't allow a window to get all the way down but quick test might be just move the door while open and it might make contact one more time or with driver's door open wiggle on that rubber. If that changes anything the problem would be the wiring right there. It may not change anything. Watch out as window will not pull up on its own by hand if regulator and motor are still intact properly and think they are. All guesswork without some investigating,
T
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LudlowLou
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May 30, 2012, 9:14 AM
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Thanks. Almost sounds like a grounding issue to me, or broken or loose wire. Never had any problem with the windows before, noises, nothing. My thought is that there is some continuity between the two front windows and the rears from driver side(master switch), but does not inhibit rears working on their own. This is why I changed the switch (looking for that easier softer way), I just hate to think of a wiring problem! Wish me luck. Any hopes for a wiring diagram that I can actually read? Thanks in adavance. LOU
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Hammer Time
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May 30, 2012, 9:21 AM
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 30, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Excellent as usual by Hammer. See if that will print for you.
Just know if you find a broken wire to properly splice it or if where it bends the right type of wire. I doubt a new section is available and dammit the old cars at least here are being squished big time as price of the metals is up and worth more that the space they take up.
If troubles the regulars here can suggest away. At least where I am, there are auto electric only specialty shops!
Good luck with the hunt,
Tom
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