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PEUGEOT PARTNER HARD TO START ON COLD MORNING


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MICHAELG
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Dec 19, 2012, 7:23 AM

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PEUGEOT PARTNER HARD TO START ON COLD MORNING Sign In

My 02 Peugeot Partner (non HD) can be a pain to get started.
Seems to stuggle to stay started and misses a bit for about 2 mins than runs great for the rest of the day.

so far
New battery fitted
New heater plugs fitted (relay and link lead good)
Injectors tested and good (one injector was not 100% but guy didnt think it was bad enough to be causing my problems)


Ive been recommended to re-shim the tappets, but woundnt they be making an awful noise if they wernt right ?
My mechanic has recommended adding a fuel primer bulb with a non return valve as a possible easy/cheap solution ?


Any ideas much appriciated
Michael


Hammer Time
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Dec 19, 2012, 7:35 AM

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We don't have that vehicle here but it sounds like you have some real fools advising you. Use a fuel pressure gauge before starting it and monitor what the fuel pressure does. If it doesn't come up to full pressure immediately, then you have an issue with the fuel pump. If the fuel is siphoning back into the tank, then that is still a fuel pump problem.



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MICHAELG
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Dec 20, 2012, 7:18 PM

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We don't have that vehicle here but it sounds like you have some real fools advising you. Use a fuel pressure gauge before starting it and monitor what the fuel pressure does. If it doesn't come up to full pressure immediately, then you have an issue with the fuel pump. If the fuel is siphoning back into the tank, then that is still a fuel pump problem.


thanks for that
but
If the fuel is slowly siphoning back to the tank, wont a one way valve on the fuel line help that problem ?
Certainly a lot cheaper than having to recondition a pump.


Hammer Time
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Dec 20, 2012, 7:23 PM

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It already has one built into the tank inside the pump and that just needs to be replaced. Don't try any kind of Mickey Mouse fixes that likely can't handle the pressure.



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Dec 20, 2012, 7:26 PM

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My mechanic has recommended adding a fuel primer bulb with a non return valve as a possible easy/cheap solution ?


Does your mechanic think your car is a weed wacker?





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MICHAELG
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Dec 20, 2012, 7:35 PM

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It already has one built into the tank inside the pump and that just needs to be replaced. Don't try any kind of Mickey Mouse fixes that likely can't handle the pressure.


thanks
Ill try to get someone check the fuel pressure for me,
If its of any help heres a video i uploaded on youtube of how it sounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwD1AB2ath0&feature=youtu.be


nickwarner
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Dec 20, 2012, 8:29 PM

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Ok, its making more sense now that I see this is a diesel. You said you had new glow plugs installed, but have you tested to see if they are being commanded on and drawing amperage that would indicate proper function?

With HT about fixing it right. This engine looks like an electronic fuel system and this guy you're talking to is looking at it like an old mechanical. I've seen that type of fix on diesel equipment where the fuel bleeds back through the lift pump when sitting and a check valve solves the issue. But the lift pump on this is electrical and likely inside the tank and it should have a check valve built into it. Testing the pressure and seeing how much pressure you lose when sitting for a while will give you evidence as to if this is what is occurring or not.






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