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Engine problem - White Smoke / Warranty question


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cubicleman
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Jan 19, 2008, 2:03 PM

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2004 Suzuki XL7 - 54000 miles
When car is left unused for a few days, upon starting the engine it makes a funny noise (for a second at startup)...it sounds like marbles grinding (main bearings?) and a puff of white smoke out the tailpipe. It doesn't seem to repeat when started again soon after. I'm past the normal warranty of 3 yr / 36k miles, but I think I have a 100k powertrain warranty. Assuming it's something internal to the engine is this something that should be covered under warranty? Note: I've changed the Oil/Filter every 5-7k miles (although I don't keep receipts), sometimes myself and sometimes a local indy. I also have been checking the oil but it doesn't appear to be down...maybe just a little. Any help / thoughts on what it might be and whether it should be covered under warranty is much appreciated. Also, any advice on how I should approach this with dealer...as I've had other things that I thought should be under warranty in past (things that for my Saab-->Saab dealer would typically just cover) but the Suzuki dealer always seems to find a way to charge me.


Double J
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Jan 19, 2008, 2:32 PM

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hi.
really not familiar with suzuki vehicles at all...
Are you sure its not light blue smoke instead of white?
Reason for asking,valve seals can cause light blue smoke on start up...see many on gm engines..
where do you live ,region wise...its not just condensation smoke is it?
As far as the noise,that could be the antilock brake unit running a self test...not sure tho...needs to be listened to by a certified mechanic...

As far as warranty...dealer is going to have to inspect/diagnose before any warranty can be determined.
they are going to have to find the cause of failure first.
Is this the factory 100 k powertrain warranty or an extended warranty?
factory probably covers things like seals and gaskets,extended warranties may or may not ,depending on your coverage...sometimes its an add on for seal and gaskets...sometimes they'll only cover seals and gaskets when having to go internal for a covered failed component.

just some thoughts...

JIM


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 19, 2008, 2:47 PM

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That does sound like worn main bearings. Not sure about the color of smoke quite yet - is coolant down at all?

5-7k oil changes is pretty close to abuse in my book!

Just checked a common guide for oil change. It's based on normal and severe use. I let you know when I know someone who is NOT a severe use driver by what it said: Short trips, dusty, extended idling time, hot and cold extremes, trailer towing, - - - any of the above you are a severe schedule which means oil changing every 3 thousand miles. Ya - they other says 7500 miles is ok. Some vehicle can handle it, many do not.

That's just oil change. If the white smoke is a head gasket - coolant in combustion chamber, changing oil really wouldn't cause or prevent that,

T



cubicleman
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Feb 19, 2008, 7:48 PM

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Jim/Tom, Sorry I haven't replied sooner. It looks like the smoke has a slight blue tone to it. I live in the Northeast (NJ). I think I have a 100k Powertrain warranty. I believe Suzuki utilizes GM Engines, so this might be the Valve Seals that you mentioned. The Car is a 2004 with a little over 50,000 miles.

I haven't checked the coolant...I'll do so tomorrow, since the engine is hot right now. I thought the car called for 7500 mile Oil Changes and half that distance for Severe Use. My typical drive when I use the car is to / from work, ~30+miles each way although I'll occasionally drive it for short distance (to/from local store). My other car is a Saab, for which has a 15000 mile oil change limit, but due to the turbo I do it every 5000 and use Fully-synthetic oil. I'm not as meticulous with the Suzuki, but I think I keep it maintained OK (i.e. tuneups-15k, oil changes-5k, filter changes-15k, etc).






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