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djjoel197
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Aug 26, 2011, 7:43 PM
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99 ford escort trouble
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hello my name is joel and i have a 99 ford escort and i have a problem that has me going nuts i can start the car and drive it for about 25 minutes but after it reaches normal running temp the car will start to spit a sputter and after it doing this for about 10 to 15 minutes it will die if i let it sit for about an hour it will run fine for another 25 minutes and then start the spit and sputter again.
I have change the exahust. the knock sensor . the coil pack . the spark plugs . spark plug wires . cam sensor . fuel pump and filter and cleaned the intake manifold / throtle body.
the car is not giving me any codes but is say that the evap monitor is incomplete. but everything else is set. please help me im going nuts car sits on the side of the road because i could not make it home with it .
(This post was edited by djjoel197 on Aug 27, 2011, 3:45 AM)
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Discretesignals
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Aug 27, 2011, 8:10 AM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Does it restart after it finally dies? If it doesn't that is the time to check what is missing. Things to check would be fuel pressure, communications with the PCM using your scan tool, injector pulse, and spark. Once you know what is missing, then you can figure out why.
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djjoel197
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Aug 27, 2011, 8:03 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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the car starts back up but runs ruff and will not go any faster the 10 mph
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Discretesignals
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Aug 28, 2011, 7:46 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to check fuel pressure when the problem is occurring.
Engine running fuel pressure should be around 25 psi and the test port is located on the fuel rail.
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djjoel197
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Aug 30, 2011, 12:31 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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my fuel presure is at 27 psi. would the pcv pelve cause me this trouble
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Hammer Time
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Aug 30, 2011, 12:37 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Discrete, Isn't this a variable system using a FPDM?
I'm showing a spec of 35 to 55
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Discretesignals
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Aug 30, 2011, 2:54 PM
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I'm showing a running pressure of 172 kPa for a 2.0L (P) motor and 2.0L (3) DOHC.
Maximum pressure is 345-352 kpa.
Where you testing pressure when the problem was occurring?
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Hammer Time
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Aug 30, 2011, 4:05 PM
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Here's what Alldata says
Key ON Engine OFF 240-380 kPa (35-55 psi)
This fuel pressure specification is included within the pinpoint test HC which tests Fuel Control.
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Discretesignals
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Aug 30, 2011, 4:44 PM
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Hammer are you using Motor3k or you on discs? I see what you mean. That trouble chart has you testing maximum fuel pressure by using a scan tool. It's funny, but if you go to powertrain management/fuel delievery air induction/fuel pressure/specification/pressure,vacuum, and temperature, it shows the values I plugged in earlier. I would tend to go with the HC charts that you posted for max fuel pressure.
My question is what is the operating pressure with the engine running? Depending on the information the PCM receives from the sensors on the engine and the feedback it gets from the FPS, those values may differ. Don't have one in the shop to compare those figures to. Don't know if the OP has access to a scan tool to enable the fuel pump to go max.
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Hammer Time
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Aug 30, 2011, 4:49 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Not in mine . As far as the running pressure, it varies determine by the FPDM and the fuel pressure sensor.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Aug 30, 2011, 4:51 PM)
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Discretesignals
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Aug 30, 2011, 5:00 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Here ya go, running pressures. Typical scan tool value. Someone on Motor3K messed up, which doesn't surprise me. Does yours match?
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Hammer Time
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Aug 30, 2011, 5:02 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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I don't have that chart but they all fall within that spec.
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Hammer Time
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Aug 30, 2011, 5:12 PM
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Looks like that pressure is obviously too low regardless of when it occurred, right?
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Discretesignals
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Aug 30, 2011, 5:15 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Yep, if those PID values are correct...LOL. Would be nice to know for sure by seeing what the pressure is when the car is acting normal.
I love engineers making things complex.
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djjoel197
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Aug 31, 2011, 6:29 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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thank you all for the help and giving me idea's on what to check for and when the car is acking crazy its fuel pressure is low and if i give it gas it drops to 0 thank you for the help and giving me the info to check the fuel pump/sending unit
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Hammer Time
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Aug 31, 2011, 6:47 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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It's not just the fuel pump to be concerned with in that car. It has a driver module and pressure sensor that play a big part too. You really need an expensive, professional scan tool to be able to diagnose that.
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EDD
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Jul 29, 2012, 3:31 PM
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Re: 99 ford escort trouble
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Hello all,
I know this is an old thread but I need to find out if anyone can tell me where the fuel pressure test port is. 99 Escort ZX2 dual over head cam.
Any help appreciated
Thanks
Ed
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Hammer Time
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Jul 29, 2012, 3:35 PM
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That's right. It's an old thread and you shouldn't be responding to it. Please start a new question of your own.
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