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nealdouglas
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Jul 2, 2014, 5:49 AM

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2004 grand am wont start. starter kicks in but wont start sometimes it will start.then it goes back to just kicking in. w replaced the starter and the ignition switch .I turned the key on for ten minutes then turned it off and tried to start it. it started once then started just bumping again.


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Jul 2, 2014, 6:05 AM

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Have the battery tested to be sure it is good. Make sure your battery connections are clean and tight.





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nealdouglas
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Jul 2, 2014, 6:11 AM

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I had the battery tested cleaned terminals even relocated the ground wire. but it didn't help.


Tom Greenleaf
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Jul 2, 2014, 6:19 AM

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Hmmm - moved ground wire? Where? Try using jumper cables to add ground to block and see if that helps assisting that wire which may be NG or the positive anywhere on route to starter,


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Jul 2, 2014, 6:23 AM

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lets try to clear this up- some confusion as to cranking or not.

the starter works - engine cranks (spins) turns over but will not start?

Answer that - and let us know - easy just your observations -
1) is check engine light on?
2) is security light on?
3) is there a remote starter?

Can you use a test light? fuel pressure gauge? sheck for spark?


nealdouglas
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Jul 2, 2014, 11:28 AM

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ok tried using jumpers didn't help


nealdouglas
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Jul 2, 2014, 11:31 AM

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will the crank sensor cause this problem.


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Jul 2, 2014, 12:00 PM

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We need to know if this is a cranking problem (starter doesn't work) or a starting problem ( starter turns the engine, but the engine doesn't run).





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nealdouglas
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Jul 2, 2014, 11:44 PM

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starter kicks in but wont turn over new starter ignition switch and battery


Tom Greenleaf
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Jul 2, 2014, 11:55 PM

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Please let's clear this up once and for all or we get no place. DOES THE ENGINE PHYSICALLY TURN AS IN BELTS MOVE AND IT SPINS BUT DOESN'T START OR NOT TURN (CRANK) AT ALL?


Saying "turn over" means nothing but used a lot for an engine that doesn't start for either reason. Approach is totally dependent on just what and how it fails,


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nealdouglas
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Jul 4, 2014, 3:56 AM

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the starter engauges but the belts do not move


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Jul 4, 2014, 4:55 AM

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the starter engauges but the belts do not move


If that is factual information, it only leaves low battery voltage, bad starter or seized engine and if you can turn the engine by hand with a socket on the crank bolt, that would eliminate seizure.



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nealdouglas
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Jul 5, 2014, 5:22 AM

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the motor isnt seized if i jump it at the starter it turns over.


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Jul 5, 2014, 5:37 AM

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You do mean jump to where pos cable goes to starter and ground to good known ground? If that always works your problem is cables and or connections. I could try to explain how to check for voltage dropping while starter tries and doesn't work but GM side post cables are notorious for being bad and good old lead and copper cables are gone now so can be weak inside insulation along the way - either pos or ground.


If you meant jumping the "trigger" wire that's another issue. Think about just getting new quality cables completely - I would. Problem just too annoying for this crap all the time so would be new and greased up to last and routed as intended originally,


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