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dmac0923
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Apr 28, 2016, 6:23 PM

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2004 Corolla no power to power windows/locks Sign In

2004 Corolla S

A deer ran into the side of my wife's corolla last fall so i finally tracked down a decent junk yard door to replace it.

Long story short I installed the door and hooked up the electronics......nothing works...

no power windows (at the master switch or local switches
no power locks ( key fob now doesn't work either)
no audio out of the driver door speaker
no power mirror on the drivers side.

I checked the fuse panel under the dash and all the fuses are good. I swapped the originally master power window switch back in and now that doesnt work either.

Lost on this one.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 29, 2016, 1:02 AM

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Whole door replaced - right? Is it at least well grounded by wire not just the hinge? May be the whole problem as nothing seems to work on that door or show power. IDK - did door come to plug right in or what was the deal with wires in door jam?


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dmac0923
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Apr 29, 2016, 3:58 AM

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Hey Tom,

the door came as a complete assembly with wiring harness ready to go. All i had to do was mount it to the hinges and connect the 3 electrical connectors on the drivers kick panel.

the reason I dont think it has to do with the wiring harness on the new door is that why then would none of the other door locks and windows work locally either? Also now my key fob remote doesnt respond as well.

The other odd thing i noticed was that if i press the lock button on the passenger side door, the dome light with flash 1x.

im starting to think there is some sort of like Anti-Theft feature or something i tripped when installing the new door
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Apr 29, 2016, 4:41 AM

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Why don't you unplug the wiring to that door and see if the other doors start working again. There is no security feature that would do that.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 29, 2016, 4:57 AM

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dmac - I'd never have a chance to know each feature by model or year what it SHOULD do or what it does via key fob like bark the horn, blink lights + yadda, yadda.


It still hopefully had exact wires and plugs from used door to car's plugs.


Used? What could have been yanked from the place, the accident - dunno. How's just continuity wire by wire back probing wires of car's plug to plugs from the used door?
Used to be tons of usually GMs just where wires bend in door jam would screw up.
One thing I'd do it ground the door to the latch with jumper wire even jumper cables so all metal is known ground. Door hinges shouldn't ever be the source of ground as they move, greased and could be bronze bushings w unknown trustworthiness for good connection and it plain moves so not dependable.


Any chance this stuff all still worked with damaged door or don't know?


If door wiring all matches I say it's damaged wires or lack of proper grounding still.
Had a freaking EMERGERNCY (what a sucker I am) on a limo owner wrecked just a door and needed it in hours done and ready same color so shipped via jet like a passenger to get it fast. Wrong year, year and all wires were different. Took no time for the door and lots to use old harness totally.


IDK why lights blink with passenger's door manually unless somehow it's supposed to or back feeding power messing you up.


Keep checking what might be different or damaged,


Tom


dmac0923
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Apr 29, 2016, 8:02 PM

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Update:

so today, i transferred the original wiring harness, power window master control switch and door lock actuator over to the replacement door.

i now have working windows, driver speaker, and driver side mirror.

still no power locks whatsoever. driver or passenger side or keyfob.

still no door ajar dome light.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 29, 2016, 10:34 PM

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dmac - do you mean only driver's door doesn't light dome light and another does or doesn't. Either way I bet (no info on specifics would be plain looking) that is detected and done by and at the latch inside door.


Used door - I wonder what creature features where missing from the donor car to this one.


How much can you see of the door latch from inside? Seems it would be worth swapping those as well if the original wasn't harmed badly somehow when damaged,


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Apr 30, 2016, 7:15 AM

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Check the 25 amp door fuse in the instrument fuse panel. That fuse protects the power circuit for the integration relay that is in charge of sending power and ground to the door lock actuators and controlling the lighting.





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dmac0923
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Apr 30, 2016, 8:23 AM

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Tom-
the door latch and the actuator are actually one assembly. I swapped that over to the replacement door as well.

The dome light doesn't come on with any door that is opened. I do however get the door ajar idiot light on the dash when doors are open and the key chime sounds when the key is in the ignition and the driver door is open

the dome light will come on manually with the dash rheostat switch

Discrete- the 25A fuse under the dash is good. inspected both visually and physically with a tester.
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Apr 30, 2016, 9:26 AM

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Probably a moot question but is there a snowball's chance in hell there is a bulb for "opened doors" and a brighter one if you force it on?
I just ask because I'm sure you've ruled out all fuses and just maybe the fricken bulb is blown?


If this is just that lie and don't admit it and I'll swear to it for youCool


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dmac0923
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Apr 30, 2016, 10:11 AM

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Tom- LOL yea i wish, its the same bulb for each, the way this is going i wouldnt get that lucky lol.

i was poking around with a power probe on the harness connectors for the door. the connector is getting 12v in on one terminal and two of the terminals are completing a ground when you press lock or unlock respectively.

Discrete mentioned supplying power for the integration relay. at one point during an endless google search (of course i cant find it again now) i came across a thread about that integration relay, starting to think it might have something to do with it
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Apr 30, 2016, 12:27 PM

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Does the dome light come on if you open any other doors? Do the rear door lock actuators function? Does the horn work?


The integration relay is a module that plugs into the instrument panel fuse block.

Does the white/black wire on the driver's door lock switch have a ground?

I believe on the blue/white and blue wires on the driver's door lock switch you should see either 12 or 5 volts with the switch not activated. The integration relay sends a pull down voltage to the switch on those two wires. When you activate the switch in either direction it will take that voltage and pull it to ground (white/black wire). That is how the integration relay sees the switch, so it can activate the door lock actuators.





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dmac0923
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May 1, 2016, 9:25 AM

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discrete-

sorry I have my kids bday party today so I couldnt get answers to all your questions as of now.

but yes the horn works,

no the dome light doesnt come on with the other doors either

no the actuators for the 3 other doors arent operating either.

while Ill still climb under there and check the dome light fuse. the dome light does work if you turn it on manually with the dimmer switch on the dash.
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May 1, 2016, 3:46 PM

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Think you should focus on the door lock actuators since the information above is already posted to check the input for the integration relay. Maybe finding out what is wrong with locks first will lead you to the dome light issue.

Check those wires and see what you get for voltage measurements.





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dmac0923
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May 4, 2016, 11:03 AM

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Does the dome light come on if you open any other doors? Do the rear door lock actuators function? Does the horn work?


The integration relay is a module that plugs into the instrument panel fuse block.

Does the white/black wire on the driver's door lock switch have a ground?

I believe on the blue/white and blue wires on the driver's door lock switch you should see either 12 or 5 volts with the switch not activated. The integration relay sends a pull down voltage to the switch on those two wires. When you activate the switch in either direction it will take that voltage and pull it to ground (white/black wire). That is how the integration relay sees the switch, so it can activate the door lock actuators.


Discrete-

black wire- 12v
blue wire- goes to ground when switch is pressed for unlock
blue/white wire- goes to ground when switch is pressed for lock

rechecked all fuses, all are good both in the instrument panel and engine compartment
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May 4, 2016, 4:24 PM

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What are you using to make your voltage measurements? How do you have your meter connected up?

There is no black wire for the LF door lock switch. There should be three wires. (blue, blue/white, and white/black)

Blue should have either 12 or 5 volts on it with your meter referenced to battery negative.
Blue/white should have either 12 or 5 volts on it with your meter connected to battery negative.
White/black should be ground and will light up a 12 volt test lamp connected to battery positive.

All these measurements should be made with the switch in the neutral position.





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dmac0923
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May 4, 2016, 7:03 PM

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Discrete-

I know you will probably yell lol but my 3rd gen Power Probe has a voltmeter in the display and thats what i used. The power probe is just alligator clipped onto the battery terminals .
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May 5, 2016, 4:33 AM

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If your power probe is showing 12 volts on the white/black wire, that isn't right. It should have zero volts because that is a ground. What are the voltages on the other two wires with the door lock switch in the neutral position.





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dmac0923
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May 10, 2016, 3:35 PM

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Discrete-

White/black - ground
blue- 1.4v with door locked and switch neutral position- goes to ground when switch is pressed

blue/white- same behavior as blue wire.

all fuses rechecked and are good.


dome lights work manually but will not come on when any door is opened. However the door ajar light and key chime do work

still no power locks on any door or with keyless entry
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May 10, 2016, 5:58 PM

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I really don't think 1.4 volts is right coming from the integration relay. It should be more than that. If you check the passenger door lock switch do you get the same voltages on the same colors? Maybe the integration relay was damaged when the other harness was plugged in.





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dmac0923
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May 11, 2016, 12:00 PM

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Discrete-

yea passenger side same color wires and same readings.

the other thing that i forgot to mention which is weird is that the voltage reading will change if i manually lock/unlock the door (by the handle) and if i toggle the power lock button to the side opposite of the one going to ground.
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dmac0923
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May 17, 2016, 6:29 PM

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UPDATE: Problem fixed! Sign In

I don't like throwing parts at something but I was literally out of ideas with this one.

Long story short....I took a gamble on a used Integration Relay from that Internet auction site (new from dealer was very pricey)

Installed the replacement unit and started holding my breath.... As I untangled myself from under the dashboard and reconnected the battery terminals I noticed the dome light started working again.... The excitement was building.....I closed my eyes and pressed the power lock button and CLICK/CLACK I have power door locks again! My keyless remotes even started working again without having to reprogram them which was an added plus.

So it was the integration relay that with your guys help I was suspecting
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May 17, 2016, 6:35 PM

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Good to read it works! Just curious, but what is the voltage you get at your switch now. Wondering if it is 12 or 5 volts.





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