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2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating


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Hammer Time
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Sep 2, 2014, 7:02 PM

Post #26 of 38 (1482 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In


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since every other part of the cooling system hast been replaced its not just a wild guess .


It's not?

Just think if we used that logic on our customers.



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Sep 3, 2014, 6:25 AM

Post #27 of 38 (1473 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

Be leary of someone charging $220 to do this job.

Also you said that coolant was leaking from the water pump area. How can you tell? You cant see the water pump and it has weep channels that carry the leak away. If you saw coolant leaking from the weep hole, then you need a water pump.

If you do need a water pump, you should be doing a timing kit too. If you replace just the pump, and reuse the timing components, you could be in for some interesting developments.


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Hammer Time
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Sep 3, 2014, 7:17 AM

Post #28 of 38 (1468 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

Let him go.............. he won't listen



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mactube
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Sep 16, 2014, 1:23 PM

Post #29 of 38 (1377 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

 haven't been on here for a little while because I was a little embarrassed to say. I tried to cut corners again and bought a water pump from Autozone and had another semiprofessional mechanic put it in.
I don't know if he messed with the bleeder housing but when I picked the car up the car started to overhead within minutes and steam/water came out the bleeder housing the top part separated from the bottom part and pretty much broke in half. So I had to call the shop which had replaced the bleeder housing before. They will give me a new one and I will find to tomorrow if they will put it in.. The guy who took the bleeder housing off noticed that somebody put sealer / glue all over the Intake Manifold Gasket and said its wrong and that would be a real problem.
check out the Pic: http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... hoto-1.jpg

( So I will defiantly let everybody know how this overheating story will end.. When the bleeder housing and the thermostat is replaced and the car still overheads it can only be one thing left anyway ( and we hope its not that) because the hole cooing system has bee replaced now.


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 16, 2014, 1:32 PM

Post #30 of 38 (1374 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

Didn't re-read whole thread but now if you even think it's really overheating in a real ONE minute it isn't from cold. More like coolant on an exhaust something and this noticed manifold mess + sealant is either a source problem or not but that's on the increasing lists to rule out too.


Wouldn't it be better if you want this thing all proper again about now to send the whole problem out for diagnosis and the fix?


T



mactube
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Sep 20, 2014, 11:59 AM

Post #31 of 38 (1363 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

.... end and moral of the story...

thank you for everybody on this forum/post who was interested and left tips, comments or feedback!

Unfortunately my afford to solve my overheating problem came to a bad end.
The fear of the worst of the worst has been confirmed yesterday , when shop ( which sold me the motor and replaced the water pump , bleeder housing , thermostat housing months before )

Came up with the simple method to check the head gasket ( which I was always looking for but nobody I asked new or told me this moth ode exists) :

The hooked up a pressure tester on cylinder after cylinder where the spark plug goes into and put end of a ( doctor ) stethoscope into the opening where of the cooling system ( where the bleeder housing goes onto)

And you can hear a lot of bubbling inside there... meaning the compression will of the running motor will get into the cooling system .. which indicates broken head gasket or even cracked cylinder head.

I hope somebody who will have this problem will find this post and learn from my mistakes before he starts spending money on self - or false - unprofessional diagnosis . Moral of the story :
- If you are trying to cut corners by not taking your car with a overhead problem to a professional mechanic to save money .. you will most likely spend more money at the end !
- If you want to save money ... Go to Autozone and rent :
1. a pressure tester for the cooling system ( to see obvious leeks of the cooling system )
2. a block tester to possibly see fumes in the cooling system ( might not indicated a leak in the block like in my case)
3. a compression tester

Again thanks to everyone for bearing with me though my ordeal.


Hammer Time
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Sep 20, 2014, 12:10 PM

Post #32 of 38 (1358 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In


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I hope somebody who will have this problem will find this post and learn from my mistakes before he starts spending money on self - or false - unprofessional diagnosis . Moral of the story :
- If you are trying to cut corners by not taking your car with a overhead problem to a professional mechanic to save money .. you will most likely spend more money at the end !
- If you want to save money ... Go to Autozone and rent :
1. a pressure tester for the cooling system ( to see obvious leeks of the cooling system )
2. a block tester to possibly see fumes in the cooling system ( might not indicated a leak in the block like in my case)
3. a compression tester


We preach this all the time..........

some listen
some don't
some get an attitude and run their mouths (not for long though)



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mactube
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Sep 23, 2014, 11:47 PM

Post #33 of 38 (1347 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

@ hammer time what exactly do you preach all the time ?
I which somebody would have preached these steps in that order :
1. a pressure tester for the cooling system ( to see obvious leeks of the cooling system )
2. a block tester to possibly see fumes in the cooling system ( might not indicated a leak in the block like in my case)
3. a compression tester ( which was actually not a compression but a combustion test )
but It I would have know there is suche a test that would have be perfect for me since its the cheapest option ..


mactube
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Sep 23, 2014, 11:48 PM

Post #34 of 38 (1346 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

Happy End of the Story !!!....

I took the Sebring to the shop who has worked and collected on it so may times before to replace the bleeder housing and they put some motor metal sealant in the motor to seal up the gasket or creaked head or where ever the leak was .

So judge for yourself if this is a happy ending to find out that it was a gasket or creaked head but still getting it
( temporarily ) fixed for 140 bucks ( which could have been 10 bucks only)

Well.. I'm glad this ordeal is over with until I can trade the are in as a down payment.


Hammer Time
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Sep 24, 2014, 2:06 AM

Post #35 of 38 (1345 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

You were advised to pressure test the cooling system and stop ruling out a head gasket so quickly, and that you needed more in depth testing to find a head gasket. Your answer was to throw more parts at it without any confirmation that these parts were even bad.


There is no such thing as"Mechanic in a Can". Those sealers may take away symptoms temporarily but they usually do more damage than good. There is only one way to fix a blown head gasket and that is to take the engine apart.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Sep 24, 2014, 2:11 AM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 24, 2014, 2:40 AM

Post #36 of 38 (1339 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

"Mechanic in a can anything" -- If all you wanted is to stop an active problem that way to trade it in do that in the driveway of the place as it both really wont last or work at all plus cause other problems you didn't have.


A dealer trade in will almost always give lowest possible value of the car expecting the worst and if for a private sale that really isn't nice up to downright misleading,


T



Discretesignals
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Sep 24, 2014, 4:40 AM

Post #37 of 38 (1334 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In


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Well.. I'm glad this ordeal is over with until I can trade the are in as a down payment.


Feel sorry for the next poor sap that gets that car. Probably will be a nice single girl with two kids working two jobs and using the money she had saved up to get a car.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Sep 24, 2014, 4:41 AM)


mactube
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Sep 24, 2014, 6:10 PM

Post #38 of 38 (1327 views)
Re: 2001 Chrysler Sebring - Overheating Sign In

NO ! don't get me wrong I would never sell a care with a Problem like that which has just been temporarily fixed to a privat person. I just need the car to run to actually drive it to a dealer ship and thy will defiantly give me more that a for a car with a blown head gasket that overheads immediately.
And I will tell the truth about when I trade it in.






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