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twistable_deer
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Jan 23, 2012, 7:23 PM

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hello i have a 2002 pontiac sunfire gt with a 2.2 ecotech engine and it has 180,000 kms. my cylinder head cracked so i replaced it with new gaskets and bolts and its all torqued to specs and when i start my car it fires up quickly but then it idles badly, the rpm fluctuates between 800 to 950 rmp. i used the live data feature on my scanner and the numbers were weird, at idle the numbers for the spark plug advance was fluctuating between zero and 20 degrees and the short term fuel trim was -20%. when i press on the gas the car runs fine and the numbers steady, the spark plug advance stays at 24 degrees and the short term fuel trim stays at 3%. i did find a crack in my intake manifold and i am replacing it but would the intake manifold screw up the timing? also the spark plugs had some black and dry stuff on them, it wiped off easily but is that a major problem?

Thanks


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Jan 23, 2012, 7:32 PM

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Don't worry about the timing. That's normal.



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twistable_deer
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Jan 23, 2012, 7:35 PM

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i have another sunfire 2003 same engine and i scanned it and it doesn't jump nearly as fast as the 2002 also i did get one code p0300 a random misfire code.


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Jan 23, 2012, 7:38 PM

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That's what's making the timing jump around. Fix the other problem.



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twistable_deer
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Jan 23, 2012, 7:38 PM

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im sorry what other problem


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Jan 23, 2012, 7:43 PM

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. i did find a crack in my intake manifold and i am replacing it


Concentrate on finding and fixing the misfire. The misfire is causing the timing fluctuation, not the other way around.



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twistable_deer
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Jan 23, 2012, 7:51 PM

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well thats where i was hoping you could help me, the coil is fine and the way i check is that i put the coil in my 2002 into my 2003 sunfire and it ran fine i also bought new spark plugs and i am now guessing its some sort of sensor and i was wondering if you have an idea to which sensor i could be.


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Jan 24, 2012, 6:07 AM

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Which one are you fixing? Your making the thread confusing by adding another vehicle into the equation.





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twistable_deer
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Jan 24, 2012, 7:14 AM

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ohh im sorry i am fixing my 2002 gt.






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