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Desol
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Aug 8, 2023, 1:14 PM

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Hey guys. First post. I took my truck into a mechanic a while ago to have the rad replaced. All went good, got the truck back drove it for a week, then noticed a small leak around the big hose at the top.I took the truck back in and the next day I got a call that they found the leak and that it was repaired. Cool. So got the truck back took it home and went to bed. Woke up next morning, started the truck andit began revving pretty high (2000rpm) suddenly. Normally it only revs up to 1500 and quickly starts to come down. It stayed at 2000 rpm for a while and then after about 40 seconds it dropped down to a 1000rpm.Started the truck again...same thing...this time it stayed at 2000 rpm for over a minute. I couldn't kick it down. Had to shut it off. I got it to start the next day ok. So I continued driving it for a couple days to see if it was ok but the problem reappeared. It was doing weird things when idling driving around. Either idling too high, then dropping. etc. I've had this truck (nissan) for ten years. It's always started, idled ran without any issues.
I took the truck back to the shop. Later that day I got a call back that it was fixed, he found the problem. Got there and he told me it was the cruise control that was causing the problem, and that when he wiggled the cable the problem disappeared. I asked him how he thought it happened...he shrugged his shoulders and said it was 'murphy's law". I was like umm ok. He said it didn't have a replacement part so I could either drive it away with the cruise control cable unhooked or he could order a new part. Well, I needed the truck so he told me he would check into a replacement part. He called next day and said there was no part available. My cruise control was screwed. So...next day started the truck and it did the same thing....started revving too high. Obviously not the cruise control. So while it was revving I opened the hood and pressed up and down on the round actuator that the throttle cable connects to. The engine immediately came down. So I called back and left a message last friday in the morning. The girl answered and said he was out but that she would give him the message and he would call me back. Didn't call back. Long weekend went by. Still hasn't called back. I'm waiting till tomorrow to call him for the second time. What do you guys think about this situation?
I'm thinking when I took the truck back in to get the rad leak fixed, they were playing with the throttle revving the engine in order to get the rad to leak (it only leaked after I was on the highway), and possibly damaged the butterfly valve. Do you guy have any other thoughts?


Hammer Time
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Aug 8, 2023, 2:11 PM

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First eliminate all vacuum or air leaks in the system (very important)

. You may have a bad IAC ( idle air control) but try cleaning the throttle body first. Remove the intake snorkel, have someone hold the throttle wide open for you and scrub the back side of the throttle plate and surrounding bore with an old tooth brush and some carb cleaner. Be sure to spray some into the small holes next to the throttle plate. That should help stabilize the idle. If it still has a problem, replace the IAC.



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Desol
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Aug 8, 2023, 3:42 PM

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First eliminate all vacuum or air leaks in the system (very important)

. You may have a bad IAC ( idle air control) but try cleaning the throttle body first. Remove the intake snorkel, have someone hold the throttle wide open for you and scrub the back side of the throttle plate and surrounding bore with an old tooth brush and some carb cleaner. Be sure to spray some into the small holes next to the throttle plate. That should help stabilize the idle. If it still has a problem, replace the IAC.


Thing is tho. Why should I start monkeying around with things, when it appears to be something that happened when it was in the shop?

Truck starts and idles beautifully for ten years, then suddenly after a day in the shop is totally messed up? Won't start right, won't idle right. Mechanic says 'Murphy's law'...and says he has it fixed. Then I discover that it's not fixed, and he's not returning my call. Or hasn't returned my call yet.

Does this not seem suspicious? It seems really suspicious to me. It seems like total bullSh!t.


Hammer Time
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Aug 8, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Ok, then why are you posting on an auto repair forum if what you need is a lawyer?



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Desol
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Aug 8, 2023, 4:21 PM

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Ok, then why are you posting on an auto repair forum if what you need is a lawyer?


I wanted to see how likely it was that his story could be true (murphy's law), by other people that are experienced mechanics.


Hammer Time
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Aug 8, 2023, 4:43 PM

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So, it's the cruise control that you are concerned with?

It does sound like too much of a coincidence. Maybe you should take it to another shop and get a second opinion and if they damaged something, the other shop will see it.



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Desol
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Aug 8, 2023, 5:18 PM

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So, it's the cruise control that you are concerned with?

It does sound like too much of a coincidence. Maybe you should take it to another shop and get a second opinion and if they damaged something, the other shop will see it.


No it's not the cruise control I'm concerned with. It's not the cruise control because the truck still does it even with the cruise cable disconnected from the throttle body. It's just if other experienced mechanics think he's lying or not, based on their experience. The harm would have happened when they were looking for the radiator leak...whatever could be involved with that.

ie: Were they revving the crap out of the truck (to pressurize the rad), and hurt something in the throttle body?

The butterfly valve seems to be sticking if I were to guess. Twice now when I've pressed down on the throttle cable assembly/wheel (that opens and closes the butterfly valve), the truck suddenly rev's down to it normal rpm.

I agree the whole thing does seem like too much of a coincidence since that day. I was thinking of taking it to another shop for the exact reason you mentioned, but that would cost me money...money I shouldn't have to spend.


Hammer Time
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Aug 8, 2023, 5:26 PM

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I don't know what you expect from us. It sounds like you are describing the throttle plate sticking. I have no idea what the reason is or what caused it without looking at the truck.

NO, they didn't damage it by revving the engine. There would be no reason to do that and it wouldn't harm the throttle body anyway.

I don't even see you posted what kind of truck it is or how many miles on it.

Take it to another shop and get a second opinion.



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Desol
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Aug 8, 2023, 6:04 PM

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I don't know what you expect from us. It sounds like you are describing the throttle plate sticking. I have no idea what the reason is or what caused it without looking at the truck.

NO, they didn't damage it by revving the engine. There would be no reason to do that and it wouldn't harm the throttle body anyway.

I don't even see you posted what kind of truck it is or how many miles on it.

Take it to another shop and get a second opinion.



I'm still waiting for a call back from him. We'll see if it comes or not.
Thanks for your help.


Tom Greenleaf
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Aug 10, 2023, 10:15 AM

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Just look at area to do what was done. Anything unplugged there with other end nearby? Just a thought,

Tom







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