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My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops


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fcopr
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Jan 2, 2013, 7:53 PM

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My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

I have a 1996 Acheiva 4 cyl that starts and then stops right away and the security light is blinking. I read somewhere here to turn the key on and leave it on for about 10 minutes until the security light stops blinking and turn it off for a few minutes. Then turn it on again at start it. I did that and it worked fine. However, it is doing it again every other time I try to use it. Is there any way I can disconnect the security system? Should I do something else?
Thank you for any help you can give.


Hammer Time
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Jan 2, 2013, 7:57 PM

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Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

You are referring to the Passlock relearn procedure. That may or may not work. That will only work if the original failure is not present at the moment.
If this doesn't work, then you will need a factory scan tool to be able to diagnose the issue.



PASSLOCK 10 MINUTE RELEARN


AUTO LEARN
Time required, approximately 10 minutes:

1. Insure that the battery is fully charged.
2. Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
3. Turn the ignition switch from the OFF position to the CRANK position attempting to start the vehicle. The vehicle will start and then stall.
4. Leave the ignition switch in the ON position while observing the security indicator.
5. When the security indicator turns off, which can take up to 10 minutes, turn the ignition switch off. Wait 10 seconds.
6. The BCM and the PCM will learn the new code on the next start attempt.



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fcopr
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Jan 2, 2013, 8:00 PM

Post #3 of 17 (2384 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Thank you. I will try that.


Sidom
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Jan 2, 2013, 8:36 PM

Post #4 of 17 (2356 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Start off with the basics.......Have your battery tested, if it comes up as even marginally good,,,,,replace it......


fcopr
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Jan 2, 2013, 9:24 PM

Post #5 of 17 (2344 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

The battery was changed. Thanks for the info.


fcopr
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Jan 2, 2013, 9:28 PM

Post #6 of 17 (2342 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

You mentioned a FACTORY scan tool. Who has that...a dealer?


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Jan 2, 2013, 9:32 PM

Post #7 of 17 (2340 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Dealers or any well-equipped independent shop will have a scan tool capable of accessing that.


fcopr
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Jan 2, 2013, 9:34 PM

Post #8 of 17 (2339 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

OK. Again, thanks very much. Frank


fcopr
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Jan 3, 2013, 12:00 PM

Post #9 of 17 (2300 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

I read that the security system can be disabled by finding the yellow wire of 3 20 gage wires White, Yellow and Black going to the ignition in the column. That while running, you cut the yellow wire, then shut the car off. Then restarting and that it will restart every time. Is this possible?


Hammer Time
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Jan 3, 2013, 1:05 PM

Post #10 of 17 (2296 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

That would be very wrong. The system has to be operational or the car will not run. I can give you a way to bypass the ignition sensor but the rest of the system has to be operational.



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fcopr
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Jan 3, 2013, 1:16 PM

Post #11 of 17 (2289 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Thanks very much! I would appreciae that. Frank


Hammer Time
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Jan 3, 2013, 2:29 PM

Post #12 of 17 (2283 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

This resister has to be exact.


PASSLOCK SENSOR BYPASS

If you find the black wire and the yellow wire from the passlock sensor in the column you can solder in a 2.2 K (2200) ohm resistor. That means that you are going to cut those two wires and join them together with the resister. Make sure the connections are soldered\, then insulated.

AUTO LEARN
Time required, approximately 10 minutes:
  1. Insure that the battery is fully charged.
  2. Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
  3. Turn the ignition switch from the OFF position to the CRANK position attempting to start the vehicle. The vehicle will start and then stall.
  4. Leave the ignition switch in the ON position while observing the security indicator.
  5. When the security indicator turns off, which can take up to 10 minutes, turn the ignition switch off. Wait 10 seconds.
  6. The BCM and the PCM will learn the new code on the next start attempt.




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We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.



(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Jan 3, 2013, 2:34 PM)


fcopr
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Jan 3, 2013, 2:35 PM

Post #13 of 17 (2276 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Thanks again!


Sidom
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Jan 3, 2013, 8:17 PM

Post #14 of 17 (2257 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

What I do on those bypasses to save time chasing down a resistor is 1st have a new key made off the old one if there is no spare (it can be the cheap non-chip key because you are bypassing the system). Cut the chip out of the old key & solder that into the harness......


Hammer Time
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Jan 3, 2013, 8:45 PM

Post #15 of 17 (2248 views)
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There is no chip in these keys Brian. This is Passlock, not Passkey.



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fcopr
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Jan 3, 2013, 8:50 PM

Post #16 of 17 (2239 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Thanks again fellas! Frank


Sidom
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Jan 3, 2013, 8:50 PM

Post #17 of 17 (2238 views)
Re: My 1996 Achieva 4 cyl starts then stops Sign In

Yes it is......Guess I need to clean my glasses or switch to the good stuff.....






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