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bobgee
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Dec 3, 2011, 5:36 AM

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95 olds 88 3.8 140,000.
engine is not starting and giving no codes.
car was stalling at intersections then went into a no start.
unplugged tps and car would run. replaced tps and car ran for 2 days then
started to die at stops. then went into no start no codes.
engine has good and steady fuel pressure.
engine has spark.
fuel injectors have 11.9 ohms and 12.4 v.
what would make a new tps run for 2 days then stop working?


Hammer Time
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Dec 3, 2011, 6:34 AM

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 All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can ONLY be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem isn't present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.



Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That's what we have to look for.

These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the info required to isolate a cause.

1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.


2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.


3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.

4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.

Once you have determined which of these functions has dropped out,
you will know which system is having the problem.



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bobgee
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Dec 3, 2011, 7:06 AM

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thanks for reply.
i have 1, 2, and 3.
as for number 4 what will be found during that?


Hammer Time
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Dec 3, 2011, 7:11 AM

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What is the fuel pressure?
You checked power to the injectors. You haven't checked injector pulse with a noid light.

You are lacking something from that set of tests and you haven't determine what yet.



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bobgee
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Dec 3, 2011, 7:23 AM

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fuel pressure is 42 and holds with key off.
no noid available but i get 12.v at the connectors.


Hammer Time
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Dec 3, 2011, 8:31 AM

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no noid available but i get 12.v at the connectors.


So go get a noid light

Also... You do have a fuel pressure problem if that is a VIN K 3.8. The spec is 48 to 55PSI



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Dec 3, 2011, 8:34 AM)






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