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87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start


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mymymy1960
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Sep 5, 2011, 12:35 PM

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87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start Sign In

I have a 1987 Mazda RX7 it has a 13b rotary motor with 121,000 miles on it i was driving back from Boston about 120 miles and the temp gauge kept rise and lowwering about 80 miles into the drive it overheated and I stopped to let the motor cool I had just changed the heater hose and antifreeze and had a gallon of water in the car just in case I had an issue a few months earlier with a leak in the same hose and shortened it and was on my way after it cooled down now 4 months later it overheated again this time no leak after it cooled and refilled radiator I drove about 12 miles and it overheated again I repeated cooling it down and replaceing radiator fluid with water this went on a few more times till I got home it was running when I parked in the yard but was very hot now it won't start is the mootor cooked it still turns over and sounds like it wants to start and it actually started for about 20 seconds till I took my foot off the acelerator now all it does is turns over I pulled the plugs and changed the oil and stuck my finger in the spark plug holes and it seems to have compression any suggestions on what else I might be able to do it was a great running motor until this happened


(This post was edited by mymymy1960 on Sep 5, 2011, 7:18 PM)


Mr.scotty
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Sep 5, 2011, 3:59 PM

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Re: 87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start Sign In

You will need a compression tester to test the compression properly.
A engine needs compression,spark,fuel to run, one of the three is missing.
Do a fuel pressure test also and check for spark.
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Sep 5, 2011, 4:27 PM

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You will need a compression tester to test the compression properly.
A engine needs compression,spark,fuel to run, one of the three is missing.
Do a fuel pressure test also and check for spark.


Apparently Mr Scotty doesn't realize that this is a rotary engine and conventional compression testers cannot be used.
Why am I not surprised?



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Sep 5, 2011, 4:49 PM

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Re: 87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start Sign In

Well, he did state compression tester. He didn't state conventional compression tester, so he probably was generalizing.


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stuck my finger in the spark plud holes


How far would you have to stick your finger in there till one of the rotors takes the tip of your finger off?





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Hammer Time
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Sep 5, 2011, 4:51 PM

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Yeah, sure he was.



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Sep 5, 2011, 4:55 PM

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You never know. He might be a master rotary technician. Cool





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Sep 5, 2011, 4:56 PM

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Yeah, sure he is



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mymymy1960
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Sep 5, 2011, 7:13 PM

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Re: 87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start Sign In

I admit I don't know much about rotary motors but I do have a manuel for the vehicle and I was able to look up some things online about them and it was suggested as a quick check to remove the lowwer spark plugs and to hold your finger over the spark plug hole and to have someone else turn over the motor and watch the timing mark on the cam shaft pully that you should feel 3 puffs of air come out of that cylinder per revolution of the pulley and then it explained how to check the compression with a tester and gave the psi for a good through a not so good reading on the compression gage by the way I didn't lose the tip of my finger lol. Next step. Is to find a mechanic that work can on these motors it was a little difficult finding one on Labor Day weekend and the nearest Mazda dealership is 30 miles away but that will be my last resort I bought parts there resently and paid through the nose for them but that's the price you pay for haveing a car like this and I will take the advive about finding someone qualified to work on the motor


(This post was edited by mymymy1960 on Sep 5, 2011, 7:20 PM)


Mr.scotty
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Sep 5, 2011, 8:26 PM

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Re: 87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start Sign In

Thanks DS yeah I was generalizing.
I am actually big into mazdas and I know rx-7's and rx-8's are both a 1.3 liter rotary engine.
I own two 80's mazdas.
I also have a repair manual for this exact car.
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(This post was edited by Mr.scotty on Sep 5, 2011, 8:45 PM)


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Sep 8, 2011, 5:42 PM

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Re: 87 Mazda RX7 overheated but was running when I parked it now it won't start Sign In

The engine will more then likely need to be torn down and inspected.. You need a special compression tester to test compression in a rotory.. you can use a conventional tester if you take the shrader valve out and watch for 3 consecutive beats.. but it's not as accurate.
On the rotor of the rotory engines there are side seals (sort of like piston rings). You more likely fried those seals when you overheated your engine.






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