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scooterjbrown1970
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Oct 29, 2012, 2:18 PM
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2008 ford crown victoria police car 4.6L
car WILL NOT start with key... all fuses and relays r good ... car WILL start (and run) using a jmpr wire @ relay or on starter...changed neutral safty swtch and PCM ... no diff.... any ideas???????
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way2old
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Oct 29, 2012, 4:54 PM
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Have you checked to see if the ignition switch on the column is working and or adjusted properly?
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scooterjbrown1970
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Oct 30, 2012, 6:52 AM
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yes ... checked switch starter fuses and relays ... car will start and run with key in the on position and a jumper wire either @ relay or on starter ... also checked neutral safety switch ... ?????
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Hammer Time
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Oct 30, 2012, 7:22 AM
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Checked? What dies checked mean? Do you have power arriving and leaving the neutral switch?
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scooterjbrown1970
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Oct 30, 2012, 7:29 AM
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yes sir ... power in and out of both nutrl swtch and key swtch...
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scooterjbrown1970
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Oct 30, 2012, 7:41 AM
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you wouldn't happen to have a copy of the wiring diagram (schematic) for thew crank circut by any chance??????
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Oct 30, 2012, 7:52 AM
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scooterjbrown1970
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Oct 30, 2012, 8:36 AM
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thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!! I am going down to run thru the whole thing AGAIN with the diagram and see if I missed something..... pwill let you know ..... thanks again!!
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way2old
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Oct 30, 2012, 3:28 PM
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Look under the right front bumper cover at the wiring harness. We have had a lot of wires break in there where the moisture sits in a low spot. You can get to the harness without removing the cover. It is easier accessed from under the vehicle. Make sure it is safely supported.
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Oct 30, 2012, 5:36 PM
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Well Scooter, you found the right site for sure with this car. Hammer Time owns a shop, and you just happen to be getting advice from Way2Old who maintains an entire fleet of Crown Vic police cars. If the solution can't be found here, it can't be found.
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Discretesignals
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Oct 30, 2012, 6:07 PM
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Hopefully it is a police car with the police package option because if it is a want-a-be police car, it has PATS.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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scooterjbrown1970
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Oct 31, 2012, 8:30 AM
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It is a police car I am a trustee for the sherrifs dept working on their patrol cars .... I am not sure where the harness runs under the right side of the bumper, do you mean where the fuse box harness runs under ???? ..... as for how I am testing the fuses and relays I only have a test light and visual .... no voltmeter.... i know i am missing something simple .. can't believe i can't find it.....
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Hammer Time
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Oct 31, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Test the relay socket. You should have power all the time at pin 30 and on pin 86 when the key is held in start. If you jump pin 30 to pin 87, it should crank. Pin 85 should be constant ground.
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way2old
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Oct 31, 2012, 3:30 PM
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Look under the right front where the harness comes down under the power distribution box. It hangs down and then goes back up to cross the bumper. If I remember right, the wire might be a green with a red tracer.
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Hammer Time
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I have the diagram posted above Tom. I don't see any green/red in the circuit. Which one are you looking for. There is a ltgreen/violet that feeds the ignition switch. If he tests the socket, we'll at least have a direction.
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way2old
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Oct 31, 2012, 4:44 PM
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Working from memory here HT. He may be able to access it down in front of the right headlamp. There is a large wiring harness going across the front bumper. I believe there is also a brown wire there that is likely to break. I will check more at the shop tomorrow. It is just a matter of getting the wiring harness opened and looking for it.
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