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1997 1.6 honda has problem with #3 cylinder . cylinder has what looks to be ring at the top of it rust colored ,not black carbon like the rest no water present?


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Apr 14, 2013, 1:03 PM

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1997 1.6 honda has problem with #3 cylinder . cylinder has what looks to be ring at the top of it rust colored ,not black carbon like the rest no water present? Sign In

1.6 Honda #3 cylinder has rust ring at top the others are black the timing belt came loose then car will not run right and making tapping noise after timing belt was reinstalled?


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Apr 14, 2013, 1:17 PM

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Re: 1997 1.6 honda has problem with #3 cylinder . cylinder has what looks to be ring at the top of it rust colored ,not black carbon like the rest no water present? Sign In

Please, don't put the body of your thread into the title.

Not sure what your asking here.

Can you give us some details of what happened and what was done in some type of order?

The more information you can give us the better advice you'll get. Most of us aren't good with cryptography.





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Apr 14, 2013, 1:24 PM

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previous owner replaced the head. the car ran fine but then the timing belt tensioner came loose. reset timing belt but theres a tapping sound now. #3 cylinder has irratic compression like a valve may be bent. the only thing I can see different from other cylinders is it looks like rust at top of cylinder where the others have normal carbon buildup.


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Apr 14, 2013, 1:25 PM

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Re: 1997 1.6 honda has problem with #3 cylinder . cylinder has what looks to be ring at the top of it rust colored ,not black carbon like the rest no water present? Sign In

DS if you ask way2old he just might let you use his crystal ball..........



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Apr 14, 2013, 1:33 PM

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Re: 1997 1.6 honda has problem with #3 cylinder . cylinder has what looks to be ring at the top of it rust colored ,not black carbon like the rest no water present? Sign In

So you have the cylinder head removed and your looking at the cylinder's ridge?





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Apr 14, 2013, 1:39 PM

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yes


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Apr 14, 2013, 1:41 PM

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Re: 1997 1.6 honda has problem with #3 cylinder . cylinder has what looks to be ring at the top of it rust colored ,not black carbon like the rest no water present? Sign In

Make sure that the top of the piston for #3 reaches the top of the cylinder as the other pistons in the other 3 cylinders do.

If the piston doesn't reach the same height as the other pistons do, you probably have a bent rod.





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Apr 14, 2013, 1:51 PM

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they are all equal valves?


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Apr 14, 2013, 1:57 PM

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valve? not valves... the pistons.

pistons 1 and 4 are top dead center at the same time and so is pistons 2 and 3. Make sure the pistons achieve the same height in the cylinder with the pistons top dead center.

This is an example of a bent rod causing the piston to not be at the top of the bore as it was designed.







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Apr 14, 2013, 2:03 PM

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pistons are good I was asking maybe its a bad valve?


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Apr 14, 2013, 2:07 PM

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It could be since the engine is interference and will bend valves if the belt comes loose.

You should send the head to a machine shop and have it checked out.





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Apr 14, 2013, 2:12 PM

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thank you for your help


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Apr 14, 2013, 2:15 PM

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Let us know what your find out. Good luck Wink





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