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toolman0007
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Jan 15, 2014, 6:40 PM

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OK I have an 06 ford E250 with the 4.6 with 235 thousand on it what lead up to today. jan 13th went and put gas in it. it stalled just reaching the pump. went to leave started but stalled with in 25 feet. started again but would not stay running. got the hood up air intake boot had come off at the filter unit on the engine side. when back on it started and seem to run fine. now have a miss like one cylinder is not firing. as well as noticeable loss of power. when I pulled in the driveway tonight I took a quick check under the truck. driver side converter was glowing fairly bright. P/s was normal as of yet no check engine light has been seen.other than indication of large EVAP leak this comes and goes with fueling "gas cap?" is it possible a dead plug and the unburned fuel from one cylinder could be causing the converter issue. whats the life span of a converter. all info is welcome thanks


Hammer Time
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Jan 15, 2014, 7:08 PM

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It not only could but I"ll guarantee it did. You have a misfire and you have to determine the cause. This is a coil on plug system and the coils are common failures but make sure the plug isn't cracked.



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Discretesignals
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Jan 15, 2014, 8:11 PM

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whats the life span of a converter


Not very long if is glowing red.

Don't understand Ford and their misfire detection systems. You could have a dead hole and no check engine light, then you have to go playing around in mode$06 because they don't have pids for misfires. To even see it in mode$06, the misfire monitor has to be enabled and you have to drive it around (WTF!). Thank goodness for the power balance test on IDS and some scanners and/or the access to fuel injector connectors.

what is also weird on this OPs truck is that 2005 and up they got smart designed the system so it would kill injectors for cylinders that were missing if it detected a catalyst damaging misfire(s). What happened on this truck that would cause the system to not protect the cat? <rolls eyes>

Well, at least you know the misfire is on bank 2.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Jan 15, 2014, 8:27 PM)


toolman0007
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Jan 15, 2014, 9:35 PM

Post #4 of 9 (1666 views)
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I did replace the plugs in October of 13. will be checking plugs and coils in the am. will up date thanks hammer


toolman0007
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Jan 15, 2014, 9:46 PM

Post #5 of 9 (1665 views)
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yes my 96 crown vic when I had a miss fire on that it picked it up quick and told me which cylinder it was.
and yep your right at least I know which bank it's on . LOL I just hope not to much damage was done to the cat converter. I guess I will find out.


toolman0007
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Jan 16, 2014, 1:47 PM

Post #6 of 9 (1633 views)
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ok got a slow start in to it today and after a bit of checking, and a bit of deliberation between Me Myself and I and a bit of info from the help here. it comes down to replacement of intake gasket. tested all coils with HEI spark tester. # 6 hole had coolant in the hole. after checking coils and cleaning the plug hole out. it's back to running like it should. for how long IDK. consider this resolved thanks for your input guys


Hammer Time
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Jan 16, 2014, 2:11 PM

Post #7 of 9 (1631 views)
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Let me guess......... It's the #4 plug. Rear one, passenger side. The heater hose nipple is cracked.



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toolman0007
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Jan 16, 2014, 2:27 PM

Post #8 of 9 (1626 views)
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nope, driver side 2nd one back. get the engine good and warm shut it down and wait and you can see it start to seep.
tough to see but it's there.


toolman0007
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Feb 12, 2014, 5:49 PM

Post #9 of 9 (1561 views)
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just letting you know this has been resolved
thanks






 
 
 






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