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PO1411 - Downstream 02 Sensor - Please help!


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protege1.6
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May 24, 2017, 2:32 PM

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Hi there,

So I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 1.6L engine if it doesn't already show that on my profile.

The CEL code is P1141: Downstream

I know this code suggests there is an issue with e the downstream 02 sensor,however I already installed a new one in August!

My friend did some voltage testing:

* 5V coming out of the heating circuit
* No voltage coming out the PCM! --------->> What does this mean?

So what else should I check , before I go and buy yet again another 02 sensor??? Gas mileage has deterioted!

Previously I had a po420 cat code, but that didn't come up this time.

Help!


(This post was edited by protege1.6 on May 24, 2017, 2:34 PM)


Hammer Time
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May 24, 2017, 4:03 PM

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Unplug the sensor and you should have 12v on the orange wire with the key on.



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protege1.6
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May 25, 2017, 11:33 AM

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Unplug the sensor and you should have 12v on the orange wire with the key on.


Which proves?


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May 25, 2017, 1:10 PM

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Power for the heater doesn't come from the PCM. The power comes from the ignition switch (on position) and the PCM grounds the heater circuit to turn it on.





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May 25, 2017, 1:42 PM

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Trace the black/blue wire. It comes from the ignition switch.





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May 25, 2017, 1:49 PM

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You're right, I followed the wrong wire but I see it goes through a fuse between the switch and the sensor (engine fuse 10A) in the inside fuse box behind the left kick panel.



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protege1.6
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May 25, 2017, 4:56 PM

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Unplug the sensor and you should have 12v on the orange wire with the key on.


Sorry but I do not have a hoist/ jacks....

Would I be able to do all this with raising the car off the ground?


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May 25, 2017, 4:58 PM

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Just check the fuse in the left lick panel. If that's good, take it to the mechanic.



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protege1.6
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May 25, 2017, 5:17 PM

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Just check the fuse in the left lick panel. If that's good, take it to the mechanic.


and if its not?


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May 25, 2017, 5:19 PM

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Gee, that's a tough one. If the fuse is no good, what should you do?

Maybe replace the fuse.



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May 26, 2017, 4:56 AM

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If the fuse was blown, the engine wouldn't run. The fuse protects the circuits for the O2 sensor heaters and ignition coils.





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May 26, 2017, 5:06 AM

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That only leaves the wiring and that is beyond his ability so he is back to taking it to the shop.



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protege1.6
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May 26, 2017, 9:35 AM

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That only leaves the wiring and that is beyond his ability so he is back to taking it to the shop.


If I dont have to raise the car, then its within my ability.

I rewired the harness for my motorcycle.


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May 26, 2017, 9:43 AM

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OK, then go ahead and locate the problem.



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TGonnion
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Aug 18, 2017, 12:01 PM

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Incorrect advice deleted
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Aug 18, 2017, 12:30 PM)






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