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bguidry42
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Dec 28, 2013, 12:37 PM

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does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

we have tested both of the coils and it's the wiring going to one of the coils is not getting fire but we switched the coils and they both fire of one of the wires but the other wire will not make them fire


Hammer Time
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Dec 28, 2013, 12:58 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

There is no way to test an ECU. The way you condemn one is by eliminating everything else first.



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bguidry42
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Dec 28, 2013, 1:00 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

the problem is we checked both of the coils and they're both good but one of the wires that plugs into one of the coils is not telling the coil to fire, i don't know what to check for next. i'm stumped does the front ecu control the coils


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Dec 28, 2013, 1:04 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

What engine does it have?



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bguidry42
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Dec 28, 2013, 1:09 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

2.0 non turbo charged


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Dec 28, 2013, 1:42 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

OK, the way this works is the coil receives constant power and the ECU pulses ground to fire the coils on the Black/yellow and Black/green wires. The way you test these signals is using a noid light bulb, never an incandescent bulb. You will need to test for pulse on that wire both at the coil and at the ECU to determine if the wire is OK. If you can positively determine that there is no signal leaving the ECU, then you can pretty much condemn it.



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Dec 28, 2013, 2:39 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

It won't like a test light or noid. The ignition primary circuit uses two transistors. One is in the PCM and the other is in the ignition coil. The PCM's transistor is used to trigger the other transistor in the ignition coil to control the firing of the coil. The signal that is produced isn't enough to light up a test lamp. You need a scope to see the signal. Peak voltage on the circuit is around 4.5 volts.


You also need to make your voltage checks at the PCM connector itself. You could have a short or open in the wiring between the PCM and the coil. If you don't see a signal, you need to check your cam and crankshaft sensor inputs. If the inputs look good, you have good power and ground to the PCM, but you see no signal to the coil after verifying your wiring is good is when you condemn the PCM.







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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Dec 28, 2013, 2:41 PM)


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Dec 28, 2013, 2:51 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

Are you sufficiently confused yet?



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Dec 28, 2013, 3:08 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

Should I dumb it down?

PCM is only $1000-$1700 w/o programming it.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Dec 28, 2013, 3:11 PM)


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Dec 28, 2013, 3:11 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

You're usually a couple floors above the lobby.



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Dec 28, 2013, 3:43 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

How do I dumb it down?

A transistor is basically a solid state switch that uses a small signal to control a greater amount of current. Much like faucet in your bath tub.

Now sit down children. It is story time. The name of this story is called making cookies (spark).

Once upon a time in transistor land a transistor, named Fred who lives in the the brain building (PCM) was bored and hungry, so he decides to make a phone call to Betty, another transistor, who lives inside the cookie factory (ignition coil). Betty makes yummy cookies (spark) by operating an oven (transformer).

Both Fred and Betty love talking to each other. Fred doesn't have to yell over the phone, but only has to whisper for Betty to hear him. Fred asks Betty if she could turn on the oven because he is hungry and needs to feed his four kids (spark plugs). Betty gets the message and immediately turns on the oven to bake those famous scrumptious cookies. As Fred hangs up the phone, Betty turns off the oven and there are some hot cookies all ready to eat. Nummmm Nummmm....





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Hammer Time
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Dec 28, 2013, 3:45 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

Do you really think this guy has a lab scope?



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Discretesignals
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Dec 28, 2013, 3:49 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

Your asking me? You should ask him....LOL





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Dec 28, 2013, 8:22 PM

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Re: does anyone know how to test front ecu on a 2004 mitsubishi lancer Sign In

LOL best story time ever


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