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STARTER MOTOR TROUBLE. YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEEDED


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ThePrimeShot
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Sep 23, 2012, 5:10 AM

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Greetings from Australia Wink

i have a KIA Pregio 2005 I use for work.

The issue here is that when I turn the ignition the Van usually
takes a few turns before the starter motor kicks in.

I suppose I am wandering if anyone knows a good starter motor maintenance guide, a link or any tips on how to maintain a starter motor.

Its going to be hot this summer again and the van is always good for camping Cool making sure it runs Sh!t hot.

Wink


(This post was edited by ThePrimeShot on Sep 23, 2012, 5:13 AM)


Discretesignals
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Sep 23, 2012, 7:23 AM

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When ever your diagnosing a starting system fault the first thing you usually do is have the battery tested and to make sure your battery connections are clean and tight. If the battery is weak or the cabling has a high resistive connection to the battery, your other system tests are going to be affected.





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ThePrimeShot
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Sep 23, 2012, 7:07 PM

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The battery is fine, it is new.

The issue here is that the starter motor itself is in need of a clean and maintenance. I have never done a starter motor
before.

It could be that the solenoid needs a clean.
Something to do with the brushes.

Any help is appreciated.

ie. Are there safety precautions?

Should I use grease, degreaser etc...


nickwarner
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Sep 23, 2012, 8:29 PM

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Kia starters are a cheaper type like a lot of newer cars, and were never designed for maintenance. If they work, you run them. When they fail, replace with new. I have never heard of a starter maintenance schedule for any type of vehicle ever.


Hammer Time
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Sep 24, 2012, 3:17 AM

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Quote
The battery is fine, it is new.

The issue here is that the starter motor itself is in need of a clean and maintenance.[


How do you know the battery is fine? Do you think new batteries never fail?

Where did you come up with the nonsense about the starter? Did you make that up yourself?



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ThePrimeShot
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Sep 24, 2012, 4:48 PM

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Yes you would of,

every car repair manual printed will have a starter motor
section inside. A repair manual will cost about 60 dollars brand new.


Hammer Time
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Sep 24, 2012, 5:56 PM

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You do realize you are talking to professional techs, right?



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nickwarner
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Sep 24, 2012, 6:00 PM

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A crappy Haynes manual is about $20. A factory repair manual goes anywhere from $150-$500 depending on the source. though alldata has eliminated the need to purchase them now. Look in any manual you like, there is no starter maintenance schedule. Never will be. They make these components stamped and crimped so hard that you would wreck them taking the apart. Manuals will give a troubleshooting flowchart for a starter to determine if its the issue and guide the user through the replacement. Its not the tin man from the wizard of oz, you don't get rid of the squeaks with an oil can and call it good til the next rainstorm.


Discretesignals
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Sep 24, 2012, 6:36 PM

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Starter motors are intended to be maintenance free. When they fail to perform is when they are either taken apart and rebuilt or replaced as a unit. Back in the old days mechanics used to rebuild starters when they failed for some reason. Since a reman starter is cheaper than paying a repair shop technician to overhaul one, most customers opt to replace the unit unless it is some special or rare starter.

The best thing you can give your starter is a good supply of current when it asks for it. That means making sure your battery and electrical connections can deliver what the starter needs. Also making sure your starter isn't getting contaminated by engine oil leaks is helpful in making sure it has a long service life. Another thing to consider is making sure your engine doesn't have problems that makes the starter motor run longer than intended during cranking.





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Sep 24, 2012, 6:43 PM)


oddgca
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Sep 26, 2012, 6:45 PM

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I once had problems with a Bosch starting motor. The problem was the clutch at the Bendix. The clutch, a rubber disk in a "Donat"housing. was slipping, because it was full of grease. I opened the housing and cleaned the inner part. It worked fine after that.


Hammer Time
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Sep 26, 2012, 6:54 PM

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Great idea. That should solve all your problems. It may even create world peace too.



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Discretesignals
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Sep 26, 2012, 7:01 PM

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Donat housing? Isn't there supposed to be lubrication in a one way clutch?





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(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Sep 26, 2012, 7:05 PM)






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