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Peugeot 307 not starting ignition fuse keeps blowing!
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carss
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May 12, 2011, 5:34 PM
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Peugeot 307 not starting ignition fuse keeps blowing!
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Hello,
Peugeot 307 2006, 78000km
I am on the scrounge for any helpful tips/advice if you would be so kind.
the 20amp ignition fuse connected to anti-theft (F8 fuse) blew, car wouldn't start, changed fuse worked again. Just went out for petrol this afternoon and again the car wouldn't start fuse blown again, changed fuse started again.
Fuse only seems to last 6 days then it blows any ideas as to what the problem is and whether I can fix it. Or will I have to spend a fortune and take it to the garage.
Thanks Kindly.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 12, 2011, 6:40 PM
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You mean the starter won't crank engine when fuse blows or cranks and doesn't start?
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carss
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May 16, 2011, 11:29 AM
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Thanks for your reply,
The starter wont crank the engine when the fuse blows out. you just heard a tick sound like when the starter is totally bad.
i noticed that when the fuse blows, and i change the fuse it blows again, but i had to change the fuse and wait til the car cools down to start again. As long as the car is working , no problems even if i unplug the fuse.
i also read that the fuse called anti-theft power switch or the switch of the contact circuit related to anti-theft system.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 16, 2011, 4:02 PM
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If this is involving a specific anti-theft system I don't know where to begin for you. It may be blowing the fuse??
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Mr.scotty
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May 16, 2011, 5:25 PM
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It's strange if a Anti-theft systems was blowing fueses though but, anything is possible.
It's got to have a starter problem or some kinda circuit problem i would think.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 17, 2011, 1:03 AM
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Probably right Mr. Scotty. carss: I haven't even seen one of these cars which isn't critical the fundamentals are near certainly like most all. Starter is "triggered" by a smaller gauge wire to its solenoid frequently part of the starter on top of it. If blowing a fuse somewhere it's drawing too much current and might be anywhere between the fuse and the starter. DON'T OVERFUSE IT as it's supposed to blow to save burning up more wires and making a real mess.
See if you can get a look right at that solenoid and the wires to it for now. Perhaps it's messed up or real dirty or something wrong there.
Make sure you know any tricks, passwords or whatever to the anti-theft system if you disconnect any wiring to clean things up if found. If an aftermarket alarm system know how it's supposed to work.
Follow that trigger wire and see if you can find a flaw with it and probably begin at starter's solenoid working back. Can only guess,
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Mr.scotty
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May 17, 2011, 8:55 AM
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You just said it!
It's got to be trying to draw way..... to much.
Connections as you said and then whats left? the starter rite?
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 17, 2011, 9:52 AM
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Mr. Scotty + carss - all starters I know of are just triggered and get their real power thru the much higher gauge battery cable. I have had plenty of bad starters and perhaps if so it could mess up the solenoid to draw excessive current or just plain that the solenoid needs too much current and most can be replaced separate from the starter but some not so easily. I'm guessing that the solenoid sits right on top of starter as most do now but might be separate completely - gotta plain look. Hate to just toss parts guessing so if nothing found by eye as this can work for days?? then an assortment of testing would be in order.
Things like known good battery for a beginning then watch how much the starter draws but if intermittent this will be tough.
carss: If trigger wire is overloaded somehow it may show wrinkles in the plastic insulation at or near the problem area. Of course a lot of wiring is inside plastic covering with others so tough to follow them from beginning to end. I suggest checking at starter first as it's exposed to the elements??
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Mr.scotty
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May 17, 2011, 10:18 AM
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What if he just ran power rite to the solenoid just to see if the starter and solenoid worked?
Aslong as he unhooked it first it won't damage anything rite? Just trying to think of a simple way he could test it without fancy test equipment.
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May 17, 2011, 11:02 AM
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Yes - I thought of suggesting that if in trouble and out of fuses for now. I have a widget that you can leave on with a button to do that for test whatevers and don't have another hand to crank for testing. There's the screwdriver trick too. Hate to suggest that but rather jumper clips and wire if in trouble would be better.
The more I think about this the more I'm blaming the solenoid but as we all know if you try to test it, it would be fine and tell you nothing wrong.
Again - I haven't even seen one of these cars in passing so going on basics. If and most likely is a piggy back solenoid/starter together such that as we know solenoid both makes the connection for full battery power AND throws the starter drive at the flywheel together - common set up.
It's messing with me that it can behave for 6 days then blow a fuse!
Questions for carss: Has this been in high water such that starter was dunked? That could explain a lot,
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Mr.scotty
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May 17, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Yeah it's hard to know 100% when we don't know much about this vehicle.
He needs to just do the test's like you said on the starter/solenoid first.
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May 17, 2011, 7:51 PM
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i didnt read all post so idk if this has been suggested but the anti-theft fuse may be a higher amperage fuse and since you said they are connected its not enough to blow that fuse (i would consider primary, if its in line) but its enough to blow the ignition fuse(secondary). pull the ignition fuse before it is blown and check the voltage, then pull it after it blows, right after if possible to see how much is there. if its excessive theres the problem. as to why it would be excessive, i have no clue. good luck.
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