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xjami3lx2
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Feb 10, 2016, 12:12 PM
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let me start by saying hi my namie is jamie, and i love this forum. it has helped me in the past. I have a 1997 chrysler concorde. it has new alternator , new brakes new battery, new radiator just about new everything.
i purchased it with 60000 miles on it used. it is now at 94000.
i am having a serious issue with the auto theft and car not being able to start. it has been sitting for about 3 months now until i could get an inspection. bear in mind it ran like a dream until i had to let it sit and never had issues. i also started it periodically to keep it fresh.
I got tags and title for my ex yesterday as she has the kids and needs the car. i went to start it this morning and the red blinking light refused to go off. it started for a second then shut off. i have tried the key cycling method , the using the key in the front doors and trunk method , every which way i could find.
I saw one method i have yet to try and needed input from knowledgeable people. i read about a black connector on the BCM and in cavity 3 is a light green/orange wire. i read if you cut it 6 inches up then take the end of the black plug and attach it to a metal grounded part and seal off the other end of the cut wire it will permanently disable the alarm/anti theft.
i am just wondering if this is possible and how and where the BCM is. Im pretty good with cars but no clue as to the BCM.
i was also told if that doesnt work i am not able to use a used BCM. used is very cheap and i don't have much money as new at the dealer is upwards of 400-700 $ i would assume.
I really appreciate any tips and help that can be given. i just don't understand how it was perfectly fine and anything could break from sitting for a few months.
Thanks very very much , Jamie
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Hammer Time
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Feb 10, 2016, 1:23 PM
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Don't even think about cutting wires. You can't disable the system. If the PCM does not receive the proper password from the BCM, it will not turn on the fuel.
It wouldn't be much of a security system if it was that easy to defeat.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Feb 10, 2016, 1:25 PM)
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kev2
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Feb 10, 2016, 1:28 PM
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do NOT cut wires....
lets hope there is no remote starter- let us know.
have you tried -
your other keys?
opening and closing the other door, the trunk- not just turning the key opening and shutting??
with the key fob - cycling the locks several times?
You did not say - has the battery gone dead or been disconnected?
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Hammer Time
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Feb 10, 2016, 1:56 PM
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Don't go wasting your money on a BCM. That is not likely going to help.
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kev2
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Feb 10, 2016, 2:21 PM
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have you checked your fuses - not looking at them checking them- also PDC underhood location.
ESP #8 , 13, 14 - #13 IS IOD , #14 is hot in run only, #8 is always hot -horn fuse circuit.
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xjami3lx2
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Feb 10, 2016, 3:21 PM
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hammertime why do you think that i hope not its way to expensive i ballparked it between four and six hundred. so i definitely would hate to spend that for nothing. i did research and everyone suggest that. kev i know there's fuses underneath but you also mean under hood? i really appreciate all the help guys i spend so much to get this car basically new and now this dumb issue. i just don't get it. thank god you guys know your stuff.
edit: when you say hot i dont follow ive only learned basic car mechanics ie alternators brakes simple things lol thx
(This post was edited by xjami3lx2 on Feb 10, 2016, 3:27 PM)
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kev2
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Feb 10, 2016, 3:41 PM
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hot meaning fuse will have 12v ... some always hot and 1 was only 12v (hot) with ign in run.
that IOD fuse may have a plastic strap holding it in remove fuse check it and replace it - A quirk with IOD fuses - removal resets memory.
the fuses I mentioned check them for 12v don't just look at them....
before anything like rewiring replacing components you will need to read codes yes even if CEL is off, this will require a SCANNER not a code reader.
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kev2
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Feb 10, 2016, 4:02 PM
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you are scaring me- your not comfortable checking fuses BUT willing to cut wires and ground circuits.
get a DVOM or a simple test light to ck fuses.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksrsXwwukFc
(This post was edited by kev2 on Feb 10, 2016, 4:13 PM)
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xjami3lx2
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Feb 10, 2016, 4:18 PM
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haha kev im learning and sorry just trying to avoid spending alot of cash, so ill get a test light tom and check every fuse in the vehicle if thats not the case where do i use the scanner as your saying its not a code reader. i have no check engine or anything. you helped me learn things already
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Feb 10, 2016, 4:24 PM
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The BCM is probably the least likely cause of the problem.
How do you know your transmitter is working and shutting the system off?
You can have a problem with any of the alarm triggers or any of the wiring or even the transmitter itself. You really need a dealer level scan tool capable of accessing the BCM and you won't get that from Advance Auto parts.
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kev2
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Feb 10, 2016, 4:40 PM
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code readers are cheap scanners - plug into same place the so called ALDL - code readers are limited/cheap most only display generic codes NOT all the codes AND code readers cannot display the all important live data and information stored within the vehicles computer.
concentrate on fuses the 3 I mentioned. they power the keyless entry receiver module
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xjami3lx2
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Feb 10, 2016, 4:43 PM
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Where is the transmitter and how can i check it. I would prefer to take it to a dealer but they will charge a fortune since it cant be driven. Id rather troubleshoot things i didnt know before i rack up the money. I have triple a but i dont know how far they will tow. What could they check about the BCM?
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Hammer Time
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Feb 10, 2016, 4:45 PM
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Unless you have a $5000 scanner at your disposal, you are just spinning your wheels.
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Feb 11, 2016, 5:06 PM
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Ok guys i charged the old battery overnight and put it in this morning before checking fuses. It started right up. So i didnt check the fuses. Drove for an hour then i shut it off. Turned back on. Mechanic who inspected it turned it on after i shut it off again. He inspected it and i started it a 3rd time. Got to my kids house and shut it off. When my ex went to use it she used her spare bear in mind i used the factory key which spare was made from. Back to lockout and alarm. Battery i have is used.
Could it be wrong battery , fuses , or something worse.
Supposedly my freind has som type of scanner.
Any help is great thanks
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kev2
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Feb 12, 2016, 6:58 AM
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try this - disconnect battery, count to ten reconnect and try to start with your factory key-
WHY - I posted about a quirk with IOD fuse and BCM. Removing the battery has the same result.
If it starts and restarts do not use (wife's) spare have a NEW spare made and programed at dealer. let us know....
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