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1973 dodge dart 318 engine wont cuttoff


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rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 11:00 AM

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i have a 1973 dodge dart car will not cuttoff with key switch have traced everything and replaced everything am at a lost can anyone please help. with switch off there is still power to switch, coil, relay, resistor and alternator even if the ignition switch harness is unplug????? new coil,alternator, resistor, ignition module,relay switch ignition switch andvoltage regulator just at dead end please help....am disabled homeland security officer and cant afford to pay someone..


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Jun 18, 2010, 11:07 AM

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Has someone added something to the car and tapped into the ignition feed to power it?



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rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 11:48 AM

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i found the problem guys its in the instrument cluster panel oh well guess by new everything else new might as well thanks anyway guys god bless


rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 7:55 PM

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just a cd player but its in the fuse panel you think its the cluster voltage regulator and or condensor on back of panel


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Jun 18, 2010, 8:01 PM

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Are you asking me?
No, I wouldn't suspect a dash cluster on that car. The cluster is powered by the ignition switch, not feeding it. Something would have to be feeding power back to the coil somehow.



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rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 8:05 PM

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starter relay maybe cuz the wire from the battery goes straight to instrument cluster then to switch on this car thats original wiring even with key off coil resistor and voltage regulator all have power key switch and ignition switch is new


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Jun 18, 2010, 8:09 PM

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I don't have a wiring diagram on something that old but they were basic systems and there definitely shouldn't be anny power at the coil with the key off and the power should be coming directly from the ignition switch.



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rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 8:21 PM

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well b4 i installed the new ignition switch i left the harness unplugged from it and still had the same problem, earlier i bypassed the relay with a wire straight to back of instrument cluster still same problem any idea where it might be cuz like i said voltage regulator,coil, cylinder and switch, relay, ignition, module alternator, resistor are all new and nothing seems to be burnt im just stumped and sorryto b such a bother fixing to lie down any i mean any advice would be helpfull


rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 8:24 PM

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only thing left for me to do really is rewire the whole shebang i guess i have awiring diagram and have followed every wire to the t...??night man thanks for your help im sure be back in morning night and god bless


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Jun 18, 2010, 8:24 PM

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That thing has a module that is fed from the brown wire at the ignition switch through the resister. The alternator field wires are tied into it so try unplugging the alternator and see if that changes anything. I guess it's possible to have burnt diodes in the alternator feeding back through the ignition circuit.



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rowem
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Jun 18, 2010, 8:27 PM

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you have a point there havent thought about that ive just been overthinking i guess just to get done like i siad man ill post update 2morow and thanks so much god bless and goodnight


rowem
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Jun 28, 2010, 7:59 PM

Post #12 of 19 (2970 views)
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tried that with the alternator didnt work havent fooled with car for a few days had to rest up just at a argh...state..ill start tracing wires again 2morow i did find every wire on harness has been cut and twisted back together but this problem just started out of the blue car only has 79,000 original miles has police package engine..later thanks


rowem
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Jun 28, 2010, 8:45 PM

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do you think its in the ammeter possibly since red wire from batt turns to the brown wire to the coil? im not smart on mopars chevy is my game lol just not familier with mopar only worked on a few.. just kinda scatter brain with mom just passing and all i appreciate ur and advice man later god bless......


(This post was edited by rowem on Jun 28, 2010, 9:10 PM)


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Jun 29, 2010, 6:48 PM

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At this polnt in the game remove wire fom coil. With a test light find a hot with key on/crank wire either under hood or dash.. Tap onto it and hook to coil .Try and see if pob goes away.


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rowem
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Jul 4, 2010, 10:07 AM

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its not just the coil everything has power when switch off........


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Jul 4, 2010, 10:22 AM

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Quick read - sorry. Will turning key all the way to accessory position shut off power to ignition? If so that would make be look for troubles right there,

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Jul 4, 2010, 11:41 AM

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its not just the coil everything has power when switch off........


Your not listening. He never said the coil was the problem. He had you bypass the wiring.



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Jul 4, 2010, 6:57 PM

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Here is a link to my secret favorite mopar site . Don't give it out to anyone ok Wink


Electrical diagrams for Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth cars


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rowem
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Jul 7, 2010, 8:32 PM

Post #19 of 19 (2915 views)
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sorry i just read to quick sometimes get in hurry with all i have going on thanks you guys maybe get some progress done on it god bless...






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