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71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 1:41 AM

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1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

Say, Is there anyone out there that could help me, I have a 71 Dart swinger I purchased off e-bay. There is no directional lights or brake lites. Recently I had the car painted and sat 3 months is a school class room for a project car . When I got it home it does'nt want to start. It's getting gas but no spark. Should I bite the bullet and buy a Painless wire kit and start over? The previous owner did not take care if the car and whatever he touched He messed up. your guidance would be helpful.
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Hammer Time
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Jul 14, 2009, 1:47 AM

Post #2 of 13 (2648 views)
Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

Is the old wiring harness hacked up or anything?
Is there damage under the dash or in in the steering column?



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71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 2:13 AM

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Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

Yes the wiring is hacked up he reached underneath the dash and pulled wires down, took a hammer and beat the shifter off the column and put a b&m shifter on the floor.Took the starter switch and made it a push button start. Other than that she's in great shape
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Jul 14, 2009, 2:30 AM

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You could have some serious issues then. You may end up having to remove the dash and replace the whole harness with a used one depending on how much damage there is. It's going to be hard to find any wiring diagrams for anything that old.



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71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 2:46 AM

Post #5 of 13 (2636 views)
Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

i've found a wiring diagram on the internet through mopar muscle ,problely strart with that. I've talked to some people on the painless wire kits and they say it's the way to go , All diagrams should come with the kit (I hope). Gotta keep on the possitive side.
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Hammer Time
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Jul 14, 2009, 3:35 AM

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Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

You'll have a nice car when your done. I used to have a 69 340 Swinger that was pretty quick back in the day.



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71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 3:42 AM

Post #7 of 13 (2627 views)
Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

I'll send pictures when she comes back from getting the interior done , also have a 68 dart gt we are working on.
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Hammer Time
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Jul 14, 2009, 3:54 AM

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Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

I learned a lot about how to make a 340 kick ass. My car shocked a lot of people. I tried a lot of different mods until I found the fastest combo.



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71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 7:44 AM

Post #9 of 13 (2613 views)
Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

340's are awesome but hard to find , Tell me what you know about stuffing a 400 or a 440 in one of these. it had a 225 6 cyl orignially has a 318 now with Schumacher mounts but I think the front end wouldn't support it. Correct?
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Hammer Time
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Jul 14, 2009, 7:51 AM

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Don't even think about trying that. That frame can't handle anything but a small block. The torsion bars aren't heavy enough, the wheels only have a 4 inch bolt circle and the unibody just can't handle the weight, especially if it originally had a 6 cylinder. Just find a 340. They will smoke most of the big blocks from that era anyway.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Jul 14, 2009, 7:54 AM)


71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 7:55 AM

Post #11 of 13 (2603 views)
Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

how about a 360 ?


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Jul 14, 2009, 8:04 AM

Post #12 of 13 (2600 views)
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You'll get a whole lot more out of a 340. The 360 never did much.



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71 dart
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Jul 14, 2009, 8:15 AM

Post #13 of 13 (2597 views)
Re: 1971 Dart electrical mess Sign In

how about a 340Smile next thing finding one that doesnt have a gold sticker price on it.






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