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JCSEscape03
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Feb 11, 2013, 10:52 AM
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ford escape 2003 lim ed v6
I used 10w40 instead of the 5w20 that oil cap says to use. Im in the southern climate warm year round so will this make a difference or should I be ok without any damage?
I did notice that the chain where the oil is makes a noise now, kind of a scrap sound. but doesnt sound serious. Is this the car warming up to the new oil? also some clear liquid drip out of the exhaust. There is some kind of drip in the front near the radiator but I think that may be from putting too much freon in AC.
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Hammer Time
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Feb 11, 2013, 11:17 AM
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No, you really don't want to do that. Newer engines are designed with much tighter oil clearances for fuel mileage. Putting heavy oil in them with cause "dry starts" because the oil can't get to where it needs to fast enough.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 11, 2013, 5:41 PM
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I'd use what it called for only. The 5-20 will be much faster when cold as Hammer said. I'd change it again!
T
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MarineGrunt
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Feb 11, 2013, 11:56 PM
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Even if the ac was filled properly you are still going to have some condensation dripping. It normally collects on the receiver drier/accumulator. But, as DS already said, if you have any doubts that it is overfilled you had better get some gauges on it to make sure you have the correct pressure. If you don't have gauges, or don't know how to check it, I'd leave the ac turned off until you can take it to a shop. It shouldn't cost much only to have them take a reading. If it's overfilled you'll end up blowing the seals on the compressor and possibly cause damage to other components.
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Hammer Time
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Feb 12, 2013, 4:18 AM
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Let me also add that once the level has changed, there is no way to determine how much refrigerant is in the system with gauges. You can see if the pressures are running in an acceptable range but those pressure reading do not accurately reflect the refrigerant level. The only way to accurately determine the amount of refrigerant charge is by completely recovering the system, vacuuming it down and recharging it with the exact weighed charge. It needs to be exact. This is not a case of "more is better".
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 12, 2013, 7:23 PM
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Exactly as said with the A/C game. This holds 32 oz of 134a and just 10% too much it will have problems. As Hammer said you can't know how much is in it by gauges alone yet they are a good diagnostic tool for whether it's close or as expected giving the conditions and temps, RPMs when noted, fans working and more.
If you used a can with a gauge on it called a Death Kit you probably hurt it. Haven't even seen one that didn't have junk in with it which is suicide for A/C!
If you touched it without purging lines of air you also messed it up. Not an easy DIY game and the risks are nasty!
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MarineGrunt
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Feb 14, 2013, 11:55 AM
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Be sure to listen to the mechanics here. They really know their stuff.
Being a diy guy I know it can be difficult doing some of this stuff since we don't have all the necessary tools. What I do when I charge my ac system is vacuum the system for a couple hours or more. My pump is only a 3 CFM so I leave it on longer than recommended. I then leave the gauges hooked up overnight to check for leaks. I like knowing without a doubt if there is even very slow leak. If I'm using the 12oz cans I use a digital kitchen scale. When I put the first can in I weigh it. Once it's empty I weight it again so I know how much I need to subtract for the weight of the can. Once you get to the last can you just have to do the math not forgetting about the weight of the can itself. I'm sure doing this isn't the best way to go about it because you can't get every bit of the refrigerant out of the can. There's always a very small amount that sprays out when you unhook it. At least I know that I'm very close to having the recommended weight of refrigerant in the system. I always err on the side of caution. Like mentioned above, many think more is better but it's not. Have more than what is recommended won't make your ac colder. You might think it's colder for about 5 minutes, hear a hiss for 10 seconds, and then you won't have any cold air.
Like Tom said, stay away from the "death can" with plastic gauges. Back in the day I blew the seals on two compressors using those. I even kept the needle of the gauge within the "OK' area. I bet that gauge was about 1 can off. After that $600 lesson I decided it was time to invest in some of the correct equipment. If I wouldn't have bought the gauges and vacuum I would've taken our vehicles in and let the pros take care of it.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Feb 14, 2013, 7:11 PM
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Flattery will get you everywhere MG
Personally I don't care what products are sold out there but they don't come with fair warnings. Unsuspecting people just read the bold print that this will fix you up for whatever which is bull of course. Who would use one of those "Death Kit" cans if in bold print it said on it that it could cost you thousands to use this product.
It was a while ago a local Walmart had a tent sale in the parking lot. All kinds of A/C crap but did have pure 12oz 134a down to a dollar I think I bought all of them!
I don't see them anywhere anymore but have ONE gauge and hose the adapts to read high and low pressures. That's neat to pack some handy stuff in the trunk of a car taking no space. A/C as a road call is point less but do carry tire plugs, a 12v compressor and small floor jack for emergency road call repairs, a fold up cross lug nut wrench (neat thing) and assorted small stuff, water, antifreeze, gasoline and some more stuff.
Sometimes a car would be stuck (could be me too) and I could usually get out of a jam if only temporary.
The A/C thing is a total different bird. You need to know what you are doing which is a training course not some magic you just blast in refrigerant.
Loved road calls and carry a recipt book.
I'm done with any biz but am the sucker that will stop for a broken down vehicle or say back when, when everyone didn't have a cell phone for a tow if that was the only way out and more and more that is the only way out - T
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