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HELP! Car got rear-ended, now it makes a scraping noise when turning =(
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HyundaiCivic
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Sep 17, 2008, 3:48 PM
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HELP! Car got rear-ended, now it makes a scraping noise when turning =(
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Hi guys, new to forum need some help. My 02 Honda Civic was rear-ended while parked in a lot last week. Got the insurance to pay for repairs to the bumper. However, after the accident I noticed another problem. When I make a sharp turn I hear a scraping / rubbing noise coming from the front perhaps below the engine.
I can't pinpoint what it could be, and neither can the mechanic at the body shop from the test drive. He said he could take it apart and see, but I'd have to authorize it. I just wanted to see if anyone here would know what could cause this noise.
The scraping noise occurs most frequently and audibly when the car is cold--aka hasn't been driven. Once I drive it awhile, it's harder to reproduce the scraping noise when performing sharp turns. (Does this indicate a brake issue, since heat is generated from braking may eliminate the noise?). When the scraping noise does occur, it happens when I turn the steering wheel both to the left or right. The sound it makes goes like "urrrrr" "urrrr" "urrrr". Each "urrrr" noise lasts about 1-2 seconds. So it's not a click or whine, but a prolonged scrape sound.
If anybody knows what this is, I'd greatly appreciate your input. From
talking to some people, guesses include a damaged CV joint or a brake
shield rubbing against the rotor. My Civic never had this problem
before the accident, and now the insurance co. won't pay for it unless
I can show it was related to the accident. If I know where the noise is
coming from, then I can have them check out the part to see if it was
damaged from impact. Thanks again and have a great day.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 17, 2008, 7:14 PM
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Re: HELP! Car got rear-ended, now it makes a scraping noise when turning =(
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Insurance should cover investigating/diagnosing what this new noise is. Hey - it sounds like the car was unattended - does this mean in park or in gear as many would be? A hit hard enough to damage the bumper also sent a shock wave on to front wheel which are locked by trans either in park or in gear.
Did the car get shoved from where it was parked? How much damage was done - just bumper skin and cosmetics or what?
Did it get towed from the site? Towing can cause problems too.
There's nothing fun about insurance and collision damage. Each incident is going to be a bit different and there's no standard for what might have been damaged.
You need to rattle up the insurance to fix this. There should be a period of time for "unseen" damage from this accident that will be covered. If they find worn out brakes or worn parts vs broken parts it's a headache and you would be responsible for fixing or replacing parts that are cooincidentally now showing the problem that lurked before this. The body shop and insurance should be helping you,
T
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HyundaiCivic
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Sep 18, 2008, 3:53 PM
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Re: HELP! Car got rear-ended, now it makes a scraping noise when turning =(
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Thanks Tom for the reply. Here is what I know:
My car is an automatic transmission, parked with the parking brake engaged at the time of the accident. The at-fault party was driving an SUV which outweighs my Civic 2:1. The SUV was backing up at an estimated speed of 5-10 MPH. I tried to explain to the insurance adjuster that this is not merely a case of "tapping the bumper while riding the brake" as it the case so often when parallel parking. The at-fault party literally did not see my car and backed right into it while accelerating.
I am almost certain the car "lurched" forward when hit, possibly causing additional damage to the brakes/suspension/transmission--basically whatever it is that keeps the car stationary. I explained this to the adjuster, but they were adamant the damage was limited to just the rear bumper. Also, the rear impact bar behind the bumper was compressed so they had to replace that too--gives you an idea of how much force was delivered upon impact.
So I'm am positive this scraping noise I hear is a result of the collision. Something is out of whack. Just not sure what it is. Suggestions I've received so far include a faulty CV joint, a damaged brake shield, low power-steering fluid or slipped belt. If you have any more ideas I'd really appreciate it. I have an appt with a dealer to take a look and try to diagnose the problem. Hopefully they can pinpoint the part and it will be evident the damaged was caused by the collision. Thanks again
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 18, 2008, 4:56 PM
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It stinks but just keep rattling their cages. You were hit sitting still with the car in park. Transmission locks such that the drive wheels don't move so actually the force is thru the trans and thru the shafts right to the tire touching the surface.
Side note: If you jacked up a car in park only by it's drive wheels you could roll the car with them off the ground. Cars with non locking differentiated gearcases (most) just lifting one would allow the car to move.
The force was on the drivetrain - motor mounts and all the items. You know I can't do much but suggest what does take forces and can't say squat about whether it actually could or would damage anything.
A bent dust shield isn't likely from this and would take one second to look and just bend back if that's all this was. I'm not Judge Judy for this of course but I think they owe you to check it out.
If they find worn out brakes and this was a straw that broke the camel's back or something of that sort you can still get professional opinions on whether this was likely or not by the impact and if it's found that you were on the last legs or a part anyway you still pro-rate the repair.
It stinks with this stuff but don't let it go. Chase them down, get a person's name and contact info from the paying insurance company. If in fact something is found defective/worn in your car you have to be reasonable - let them show you that something was worn prior to the accident.
Ex: If this resulted in a flat tire somehow they owe you to fix that but not just give you a new tire if it was worn out anyway. Basically they owe you to put the car back to the condition it was before the accident.
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Real story like yours happened to me ages ago now. I was sitting still in a 77 Full size Ford LTD and clocked in the back hard. Those cars had big chrome bumpers, bumper guards and a steel frame "bumper support" out of sight of the chrome and those were known to rust fast here in New England. Car might have been 8+ years old and they couldn't find a used bumper and support for it that was any good so body shop put on all new and the at fault's insurance company wanted me to pay for 1/2 the repair because I got a new bumper out of it and I refused saying - "Fine - then give a car to use and go spend two months looking for one worn (rusted) exactly like mine was and I'll be happy. The arguements were hysterical and I can laugh now as they pissed an moaned at improving my car and I won with the argument that I wasn't asking for my car to be improved - this wasn't my fault and I was happy the way it was before your client hit me! Case closed. Ya - it was nice getting a new bumper out of it but what a hassle and PITA. I would have had to accept an equivalent used part if they could find one which would be fine too.
You have a different situation as it is a noise that could mean something expensive is lurking that who knows how long it would have lasted if this didn't happen. They hate that and it's a reason they "total" cars so quickly.
Good luck. Get a contact by name and persue it to your satisfaction but be ready for honest tech's opinions,
T
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