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2005 Nissan Xterra clutch noise
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ericwalker
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Mar 3, 2015, 5:30 AM
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2005 Nissan Xterra clutch noise
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2005 Nissan Xterra 6cly, manual. Starts fine, Runs fine. Issue is an additional continuous noise from serp belt when I release the clutch pedal at start up while idling.
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Discretesignals
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Mar 3, 2015, 5:44 AM
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How can you have a clutch noise from a belt?
Does the noise stop when you disengage the clutch?
What is the condition of the belt and belt tensioner?
If you remove the belt, does the noise go away?
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Mar 3, 2015, 5:45 AM)
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ericwalker
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Mar 3, 2015, 6:08 AM
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Yes, I am not a mechanic, just know enough (or think I do) to be dangerous..
Not sure why there is an additional noise. When I engage the clutch all sounds fine, when I let clutch pedal out there is an additional and continuous noise. The belt and tensioner might be original to vehicle. I have not replaced it nor have my mechanic. This is the 2nd clutch in the vehicle. This one has approx. 30k miles on it. I have not removed belt..
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 3, 2015, 6:31 AM
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Been ages - this was caused by a "pilot" bushing by your description which should be lubed, checked or replaced any time trans is out like for a clutch. I can go looking for it or what is used but input shaft of trans needs to be held in place, engine keeps turning to shaft is rubbing there then but no real load.
Just a question as you said you've replaced clutch twice already! Why? IDK, I find unless a linkage issue or lousy driving conditions like lots of stop and go and too many hill starts in your routine it's driver causing them to burn out if just worn out,
T
(edit and found this)
The little bushing shown between disc and pressure plate low is the bushing or the thing shown below pressure plate - hard to see exactly. New one comes with a whole set and see this one with an alignment tool as well. Transmissions left hanging with weight on input shaft are subject to problems as that shaft is NOT meant to sustain forces that way. If so that's mechanic error and usually would show up right away........
(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Mar 3, 2015, 6:41 AM)
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ericwalker
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Mar 7, 2015, 9:12 AM
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Thanks again.
The xterra I found, is prone to clutch replacement every 80k miles. This one has about 25k on it already. I will have to check with the transmission place to see what the warranty is. Additionally, I do tow with it periodically, and do a lot of around town travel..
I assume this is a part that can only be accessed when the whole assembly is pulled out? Also, what will eventually happen if this goes un-attended?
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Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 7, 2015, 10:00 AM
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This noise isn't necessarily wear at all just smacks of that "bushing" I'll call it. That just centers the trans input shaft to the crank shaft. When engine and trans are spinning at the same speed it isn't moving. When still and engine running it is.
Jeez - about 800 years ago when I schooled in just these things the game was just put a finger full of grease on/in those and you can forget it forever usually. Problem is to get right there it's all apart - so now what? Do you just do the whole job because you are there already or what?
HOW LONG DOES A CLUTCH LAST: That is still how it's driven except for maybe rust, oil contamination it doesn't wear much if used properly. Hey - sometimes you just can't like hill starts in a line of traffic and of course car behind you leaves about enough room to hold a piece of paper to not roll back. Trailering alone shouldn't do much either just worse under those same type conditions. I've known clutches to last 1/4 mil miles till cars croaked in general.
If you are always needing them you and folks should really consider automatics. They are much easier on a car IMO and no real loss of MPG but do cost up front new still.
For warranty of a clutch it's either defective in some way or used up - two days or twenty years same deal.
Job at hand just (highly likely) just missed this one step or maybe cleaned it? Some used to be a bronze beaded thing that would sweat out some lube but doubt that now,
T
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Mar 12, 2015, 9:36 AM
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Thanks for input. I took it to Transmission Mechanic that did the work last time. He said it could be a front bearing in the trans. He will check it out physically next week. Will update then..
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Mar 12, 2015, 9:52 AM
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NO - Not by your description as trans is sitting still when you are at idle and stopped or did I miss something? I can't compete with someone checking things with the vehicle right in front of them either no matter what the noise - tricky by nature to describe exactly,
T
*(edit in) Understand that crankshaft of a running engine is turning at engine speed. Shaft of transmission is centered on it so while not moving (clutch up/engaged) in neutral that shaft has to sit still in a hole called the pilot bushing - not known to me as a roller type bearing in anything I know of. That's the textbook sound of that and rare to ever happen no matter what except bad luck? Most techs probably don't touch the thing even doing a clutch as they just don't cause problems much ever as said and frequently two different metals that just don't make a sound but is about the only spot this could do that.
If you confuse this with a belt noise somehow it will take the right tech as you did to listen to it and so far something is missed, either the exact conditions it can happen or the tech never heard one before. In now decades on end have heard ONE!)
(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Mar 12, 2015, 10:05 AM)
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Apr 28, 2015, 4:42 PM
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Sorry for delay, here is update.
Had clutch replace, since it went on me. Mechanic realized additional problem in transmission. Price to repair was more than what car is worth. Will run car until it goes.
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Discretesignals
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Apr 28, 2015, 5:04 PM
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Be careful driving it like that. If the transmission were to fail in a way in which it causes the rear wheels to lock up, you could be in for a wild ride.
Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 28, 2015, 5:10 PM
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Thanks for your report and decision. Wish you had said what was found that was so expensive for just a noise and could have been other end of that input shaft to trans which might be AFUed somehow and costly.
DS posted while I was at same time. Whatever was found wrong could be a nightmare as he said just we don't know what you were told?
T
(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Apr 28, 2015, 5:12 PM)
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