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howmany5
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Dec 4, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Purchased 01 Malibu used that has been well cared for, practically no rust. Steering wheel turns several time freely yet wheels barely provide 10 degrees of turning. Unable to locate any hydraulic leaks. Is it rack or some type of u-joint type coupling. Heard and felt a clunk and now it wont steer.
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Hammer Time
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Dec 4, 2013, 11:33 AM
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With the car running stand outside the driverd door where you can see the front wheels and reach in and the the steering wheel back and for about 3 inches and see if the wheel moves at all. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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howmany5
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Dec 4, 2013, 12:15 PM
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I did as you suggested. I can turn the steering wheel to the left 1 - 1.5 revolutions with no visible tire movement. I can turn the steering wheel to the 1 - 1.5 revolutions with very little tire movement. There's an audible clunk when turning to the right as well as you can hear the pump go under load when turning (completely) to the right, but not in the left.
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Dec 4, 2013, 12:21 PM
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Someone needs to look under the hood while you're doing that to determine what is broken. Something definitely came apart. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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howmany5
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Dec 4, 2013, 12:33 PM
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The steering shaft and connection to rack and pinion is really not too visible from looking under hood. In you opinion, does it sound like a mechanical connection issue vs a rack and pinion assembly failure?
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Dec 4, 2013, 12:36 PM
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What's the difference? They are both mechanical issues. Unless you have a crystal ball, somebody needs to inspect it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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howmany5
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Dec 4, 2013, 12:49 PM
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Excellent point. Thank you for your insight and suggestions.
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Hammer Time
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Dec 4, 2013, 12:52 PM
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Don't try to drive it. It needs to be towed to wherever it's going. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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howmany5
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Dec 4, 2013, 1:20 PM
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That's affirmative. Tower picking up in am. I was just trying to understand to be more knowledgeable when communicating with mechanic as well as not getting hosed. Thanks again.
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Dec 5, 2013, 11:21 AM
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Excellent on towing this only! That is a WILD amount of free play! T
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howmany5
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Dec 5, 2013, 11:47 AM
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Turns out to be the sub-frame rusted out and unable to support the rack loads..
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Tom Greenleaf
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Dec 5, 2013, 12:06 PM
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Still will take a good look at overall rust to toss whole subframe or what. Geez, is your car and my truck related? Just went thru that on another area. Not the point so find out from those looking right at it what is best. IMO if good used beats the heck out of new (still might be available) locally and rest of car is good go for it IMO. No clue why but here in RustoChusetts (MA) and plenty of places some parts go but vehicle fine and no telling just why? No telling on costs - ask. No escaping vehicles costing bucks no matter what you do, T
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howmany5
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Dec 5, 2013, 12:37 PM
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The used car/parts guy says he can replace sub-frame with used, that the rack functions fine. Are sub-frames a bolt on component?
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Hammer Time
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Dec 5, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Yes, it's bolt in but it's still a real lot of work. It carries the engine and transmission. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We offer help in answering questions, clarifying things or giving advice but we are not a substitute for an on-site inspection by a professional.
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Dec 5, 2013, 12:45 PM
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Practically no rust? Someone forgot to inspect the bottom of the car before buying. We sometimes get those here in the shop. Car looks pristine until you get it up on the lift, then you need an umbrella cause it is raining rust. If the engine cradle is rotted out, how about the suspension and braking components? Did you buy this as is? Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.
(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Dec 5, 2013, 12:47 PM)
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