I came across this site about how water can be used as a gas, are there anyone of you have tried this? http://www.h2ofuel.sx.am/

Didn't even check out the site because it's all a hoax. Water is simply hydrogen and oxygen makes H2O. If you can get just the hydrogen out it's a great fuel. Trouble is it takes more energy to get it out of water than using the energy directly. If you will - it would be like putting a wind mill on your car to make electricity but you use more power to move the car then the electricity made,

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I like your cat. What's it's name?

Kitty keeps her name private as she doesn't want too much attention from the papparazzi as she is the web's car kitty! All I can say is she's a 2002 Balimese and under the witness protection program as she knows too much about some government scandals

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Greenleaf's right. Back in college, we tried to 'investigate' this water-as-fuel phenomena (that was back in the 80's), and yep, splitting those molecules require much more energy than what double atoms of Hydrogen would give.

Still, an inventor from Asia (I think it was from the Philippines or Vietnam) used water to somehow "dilute" gas and make it still effective. It's not water per se, but water as a fuel additive. It was effective and true, but their government, being the third world country it is, didn't support the inventor. Sad, sad, sad. :p

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You've been busy tonite richardquarrel! Just read the basics of Isaac Newton's theories and the answers have been there all that long. Not a single change since then,

Smile!

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(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on May 10, 2008, 1:09 AM)

That all we need.... a car that runs off hydrogen, a bomb on wheels Bin-Ladin would love that.

We already know how nice hydrogen is in transportation! If I recall this was just hydrogen to LIFT the air ship not to propell it. The US wouldn't sell them helium. Gasoline is bad enough - imagine tanks of this stuff on the roads!

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YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT....THE BIG BANG THEORY not in space but on the roads, I did like science in school back when.

(This post was edited by JIM N on May 11, 2008, 12:34 AM)

Kitty is happy to just stay home and avoid all this!

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ok i read this cuz i've been posting stuff about this subject. see i made a hydrogen electrolizer which is a safe and relitivly easy thing to make. i didn't think it would work eiather but i built one anyways. i got such good results that i'm building 2 more for my 97 grand am gt. see the hydrogen oxygen bond gets broken and it creates hho. which is waters h2o split up into its own particals. when sucked through the intake alerts your computer to slow down your injectors cuz there is more fuel in the air. which inturn cuts back on the amount of gas used. and it gives you better hp. it burns hho and converts it back to h2o. i got one 2in pvc on my 97 lumina 3.1 and i got an increse of 20% in fuel economy and about 10% hp. and not only that but a guy i know also did his 94 chevy silverado which used to get 12mpg with 2 made out of 4 in pvc and now he's gettin 24mpg. if your vehical has a computer on it you can put one on but for carborators they don't work that great but they will give you a boost in hp.now i do know what ya'll are talkin about which is these new cars that run on hydrogen. that is a bad source of hydrogen in the first place cuz its derived from gas oil or coal and the by products are harmful. they burry the waste like nuclear waste. but yeah your car burns cleaner but where it comes from aint clean. watch this video and see how its made. try it if you want. but it does work for me and alot of people i build these things for. and the cool thing is you can build it for about $30.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kqL5Sur7LtE

Gees Darrin! Just what are you sniffin lately?

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(This post was edited by Tom Greenleaf on Jun 29, 2008, 6:29 PM)

nothing really. lol. just the gas companies fat wallet. but yeah i got another video that is good too. this is from the same guy that made the other one in the last video but it shows the rest of the set up plus a better eletrolizer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYxqvhzVie8

this is more like the one i'm putting in my grand am. i went to new york and back and alot of people looked at me funny when i went to fill up the tank but once they heard how much better we got wanted to know where they could get one. but the ones you buy can go for like 500 and up. this one here you can build your self for around 30 bucks. i've had alot of people tell me it wouldn't work but i disagree with them cuz i got one on my car and i've seen what it does. i can't argue with what i see. lol. my lumina went from getting 400 miles per tank to 662 mpt. it works.

LMAO!!!!


That is freaking hysterical! Kitty on super glue!

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Darrin,

I too have a Lumina and am in the process of installing an HHO system. It is encouraging to see your results. What adjustments, if any, did you have to
make with the O2 sensor and/or MAP sensor to see the increase?

Thanks, Rick


(This post was edited by K6RJ on Jul 18, 2008, 4:41 PM)

Enough of this nonsense - it's a hoax! Does anyone really think you can just grab a bunch of PVC hardware and burn water in your engine? It's the PVC glue that's got you!

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