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Sidom
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Feb 9, 2013, 12:16 PM

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Well hey there Speed!

How you doing??? Man it looks like you have been very busy....... Congratulations.........

Seemed like just a year or 2 ago Speed was this high school kid (with a pretty decent handle on wrenching) doing something crazy with his Camaro? Firebird?


Good job Speed.....Very nice........ I don't have much pull here but I see if there isn't something I can do for you.........You deserve it....

Sidenote......One of older guys can correct me if I'm wrong but over the years we have had a lot of young men come thru here wanting to get into wrenching on the professional side getting advise & what not but you are the 1st to actually do that and then comeback and let us know about it....


(This post was edited by Sidom on Feb 10, 2013, 10:44 AM)


speed
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Feb 9, 2013, 8:11 PM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Hey Sidom im doing good, and i wish i had tbe camato still the front seal went out on my way he from work one day and it siezed up and threw a rod so its gone Frown and i like the site here so i try to return and help when i get a chance ik ive gotten great help here so just returnin the favor.





GM ASEP 26 SCC Milford ASE certified in Brakes and Electrical on Thursday April 5th 2012


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Feb 9, 2013, 9:35 PM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Sorry to hear about the Camaro. I traded an 88 t-top for the tattoo on my back since my tat guy had a built small block in the garage and my motor had hatched. Don't know how the car looks now but my ink gives people a distraction from looking at the rest of me anyhow. Congrats on passing your tests for ASE. First time I took them threw me through a loop and I was questioning myself after it til I got the results.

Still So many things to learn though, and it never ends. I'll tell you now that your best bet is to find a way to befriend the oldest, crankiest, meanest guy in your shop. Find out what he drinks and get him a top shelf bottle of it. He has forgotten more than you will ever know about vehicles. He is a wealth of knowledge about how to get the job done fast and he spent decades learning it through trial and error. Benefit from his knowledge and the grumpiness comes with the territory. I spent 2 years at a Mack truck dealer that the most I learned was from an old timer who hated me for breathing air. Liked to point out how dumb I was for doing things any certain way. But when he showed me how he did it it blew my mind. I hope you have one of those at your shop. He won't smile at you ever, but you'll learn a lot from him.


speed
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Feb 10, 2013, 9:25 AM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Yeah i miss her but ink isnt a horrible trade definitely heard of worse ones and yeah i was real nervous on my tests until i got my results too a.d yeah thats whats great about ASEP is you dont get your degree and then get thrown into the industry to fry you get partnered with a mentor tech and learn from them and help with that, it can be bad cause you can get in the way but if you can figure out how to work add a team you can be real productive s for techs in the shop there's a few older techs that know there stuff but not on alot of the newer cars like gds2 and tech2win some of have trouble with that but they know the fast ways to change parts once they find the problem thats for sure. I like all the techs but my "boss" service manager sucks and noone in the shop likes him so i may end up going to another shop when i graduate but i hope not, and besides that idk whats going to happen when i do graduate because weve got 2guys goin through at my dealership right now and no bays to work in so idk if he is going to take all the techs down to one stall eventually or what but hes runnin the shop into the ground and it sucks he cant really be fired because hes the owners brother :/





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Sidom
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Feb 10, 2013, 10:54 AM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Well it sounds like you are in a pretty good system. Those mentoring programs can be pretty good... As Nick mentioned, if you can get one of the older techs to take you under his "wing", then the learning curve would really accelerate...

Back when I was 1st getting started I noticed there was 2 different kind of techs......Ones who would help you out & ones that wouldn't help you for nothing....You could be on fire & they were leaning on a fire extinguisher and they wouldn't lift a finger to help you. It just is what it is..

I think the program you are in would weed that type out, those guy wouldn't be any part of that program & that's a good thing....

The new systems can be tough on everyone until you get them down......Looks like you are getting a good background in electrical and that is definitely going to be needed..

That sucks about the SM but it happens, just get as much experience as you can & that will make you more "marketable" & after about 5 to 7 years, you could write your own ticket.......

I split the thread down here just so the OP wouldn't check getting notices that his thread was getting responses....


speed
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Feb 10, 2013, 11:37 AM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Yeah i love yhe program its nice getting paid fot half of my school and getting the hanfs on training helps and being a community college prpgram and not those big ones like UTI we get more one on one time and were learning how to actually diagnose problems and use scan tools and read live data rather than this is how ypu remove and install the powet steeting pump and its a fraction of the cost as well





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Sidom
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Feb 10, 2013, 12:04 PM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Oh yea....Any training where you can get hands on is golden.....I can't say for everyone but I have always been to retain study info & test well but when I go to work on the system for the 1st time & everything is gone and I'm back to square one.........lol

I was kinda like you...messed around with my own stuff when I was a kid & did H/S auto shop.....I went to AAI in Phoenix which was a pretty decent school, same lines as UTI.....Some times those schools get bad raps, but it just base on the guy going there......Some guys just screw around & aren't serious about it..
I started at an Olds dealership in Phoenix. I was given the choice between hourly & flat rate.......I went hourly & it was a good choice. Any new tech just doesn't have the speed needed to make money on flatrate. As you mentioned, the techs there can do the repairs fast once they find the problem and that just comes from time, doing the repairs where you can jump in without thinking about it 1st, having the right tools to make it go faster. Knowing the good short cuts & staying away from the bad ones....

After I went flatrate, I ran into guys that wouldn't help you for nothing....If you ran into trouble they would either take half your flag or all of it.....Some guys wouldn't even let you watch to help for the next time.....I think those guys were just worried about their jobs, they were worried that if you knew as much as them, you would be a threat...

Then there were other guys that would help you out if you got in a jam. They would come over & tell you, or show you how to do it and wouldn't take any of your flag.....Now if you were in way over you head and they had to do most of the job then obviously you would let them have the flag but at least you would learn something.. I tried to pattern myself off those guys....I'll help someone out & I'm not going to ding the guy for it......If it's advise or just lending them a tool they don't have....It just makes for better working conditions.....

You're in a good spot right now....You have access to some very good training.....I'm a little jealous.......lmao...... Learn all you can.....get in with the good guys & don't worry about the other ones....

So you blew up the Camaro huh......damn that sux.... What are you driving now?

The dealership I was working at was Monday to Friday with weekends off, you could go in there on the weekends & do what ever you wanted to on your car....hell, they had guys doing side work in there & no one said anything.....payday was on Fridays & you got your check at 8 am.......There was a topless bar right next door that would cash your check.......That create a problem that some of the techs weren't coming back to work after lunch, so later on we didn't get our checks until 5 pm...........lmao


speed
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Feb 10, 2013, 12:50 PM

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Re: 1990 Chevy Scottsdale 4X4, 5.7 90,000 miles Sign In

Yeah i love the training j learn better by doing the work not being shown how and the dealership i work at (buick hyundai and nissan) had a guy that came from uti and he was gone within a week because he couldn't even do oil changes right.
As for pay im hourly during school and i will be hourly for i think about 6 months after then i go flat rate and yeah having all the techs to help me out is nice.
Yeah it was actually the summer before i started school i was working in the express lube at a dodge dealership and one day on my way home she dropped oil pressure instantly i heard the deathly ding of the check gauges light and i saw that little tach at 0psi. I threw her in neutral and killed her but i already knew that loud shriek the ominous grind and the "bump" that was indeed not from my sub, had sealed her fate. I coasted to a stop at the side of the road and prayed that i was wrong i got out of the car and crept down to look at the damage i was facing. Well no so far it looks okay as i was just above the bumper but as i inched lower to take a look underneath i could smell the hot oil i was about to behold on the ground. I got down finally and i saw the terrible black puddle on the ground getting larger as the blood of my car continued to pour out the side . In anger frustration and sorrow i shouted some things i probably shouldnt repeat. I called my dad up said "get a tow rope and the truck need you to come get me" and that was that. She had some body work needed and a fresh coat too, but she ran a strong 170K and had a nice stereo too. The green exterior and tan interior ill never forget my first car the '96 model just pup younger than i even. RIP.
But now i drive a '98 Durango with the 5.2L 318. She is definitely a hog at 13mpg on a good day but shes got plenty of room to haul the friends in and the subs sound killer.
Lol yeah our boss wouldnt like that haha.





GM ASEP 26 SCC Milford ASE certified in Brakes and Electrical on Thursday April 5th 2012






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