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speed
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Sep 26, 2010, 9:15 PM
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Spark plugs and oil filters.
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Just noticed i see alot of bashing on bosch spark plugs and fram oil filters, just wondering what is wrong with em. i know theyre cheap but whats the difference between them and the more expensive products. also what are some of your favorites or reccomended ones?
thanks, speed
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Hammer Time
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Sep 27, 2010, 2:33 AM
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I don't know of any problem with Fram filters but the Bosch plugs just do not run good in Domestic vehicles. I've tracked many a misfire problem back to recently installed Bosch Platinum plugs, especially in Fords. They do well in a Mercedes though.
OEM manufacturers always runs best. Delco in GM, Motorcraft in Fords and Champion in Chrysler/Jeep.
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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Sep 27, 2010, 2:35 AM)
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Tom Greenleaf
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Sep 27, 2010, 2:46 AM
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They make a lot worse than those two names! Trouble is competition is wild and price is everything. IMO Fram had a great reputation for ages and so far haven't seen a direct problem with them. Bosche has good and bad ideas and so do almost any out there.
For filters and this could have changed as companies farm out production to unknowns or change - WIX was and for now still is my favorite for filters. WIX and NAPA Gold series should be the same. I don't take oil filters all apart to study them but if nothing else they use stronger metal than the super cheap ones and some oil filter are placed where a stone could hit them and in a flash you have no oil. It's happened! Same with fuel filters that rust till they leak! Not cool.
Spark plugs: Arggh. OE exact replacement is usually the best and the newer the vehicle the more I suggest nothing but OE. There's more to a spark plug than meets the eye at a glance. It has a resistance value, made to discourage the spark from jumping where it shouldn't a heat range and if thought out well smooth enough so debris won't collect. All that and please don't just rust - pet peeve AND a real problem with some.
Plugs: No matter how highly engineered an engine gets the only thing that is there to trigger the fire is the plug - it matters. I also appreciate careful packaging of them. All the handling they go thru they really don't like to be dropped and some are packed well protected.
Can't plain say who is making the best of what as it changes so fast. When something is difficult to get at to replace go OE. Even then I've had some disappointments,
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Sep 27, 2010, 8:03 PM
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okay thanks for the tips i didnt see anythignon here about fram but the guys in my auto class bashed me for goin cheap and buyin a fram filter something about the way the filter is constructed or something. catch yall later
,speed
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Sep 28, 2010, 2:42 AM
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Fram is a name brand, quality filter that's been around for many years so I don't know where that is coming from.
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Sep 28, 2010, 12:46 PM
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Just looked at one I have a little while. Fram by Allied Signal (good) corporation in USA - good.
"All new car warranties remain in effect using this filter!" That's bold!
Unless they changed I would have put them in the top half by brand no matter what bargain you might have gotten on one.
Some that I would consider cheap are *Mighty, Lee, STP and more. Even they may have higher grades. Mighty once not long ago was just 99cents for most common oil filters if you bought a case of them. If one of the cheap ones came my way not put on by me and too tight the cheaper ones did collapse quite easily if a pest. The better ones held up to removing them.
How well to they filter is anyone's guess. Any need changing on a schedule,
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Sep 28, 2010, 10:29 PM
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yeah i dont know why they said but they were like well we took apart a fram and some other brand and the fram looked like junk and the other one was amazing, whatever i think they were stupid anyway they knew more about stereos than cars so its all good. one of you mentioned something about thicker casings for opened areas what brands were you talking about cuz mine is pretty open but i dont think ill get rocks thrown at it. i got a camaro its low enough i dont think my tires can throw rocks at it and its a v6 so its definitely got the potential room in there.....i wonder what the biggest engine that could fit in that stock compartment is.....i mean since half the engine is under the dash i could fit an engine and a half in there i reckon  like this bad boy hmm? 
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