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toolman0007
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Jan 10, 2015, 6:44 PM

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How I get these jobs I don't know. have a 98 Subaru outback he had a fuel tank put in like 5 months ago and has had nothing but problems trying to put gas in it.
what I have determined is it's not the right tank. the tank that should be there, right next to the fill opening at the tank it has a 3/4 nipple for the vent tube that goes to the top of the filler tube.
who ever put this tank in routed the fuel cut valve to the vent tube, what makes this hard is I don't even know what year car the tank came out of. I know it's after 98 because of the way the vent and evap
changed after 98. what I am looking for are diagrams for the evap systems. I have a newer fill tube and canister that I picked up and believe they will work I just need to know how to route every thing.
I have seen diagrams that show the fuel cut valve being routed to the canister. and the canister I have has the 3/4 nipple marked as going to fuel tank. anyone that can help on this would be geate


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Jan 10, 2015, 8:54 PM

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Wouldn't it be easier to install the correct fuel tank?

Base, Limited, or Sport?





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toolman0007
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Jan 10, 2015, 9:37 PM

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the problem is finding one that is designed for the system that is in the car. he paid 300 for the tank and a total of 700 all said and done.
told him to take it back to the guy that did it. he said it would be another 125 or more to fix the problem . if I'm right in what I have found 99 and up have the purge valve up front this I believe is
in the back near the canister as I have seen it in other diagrams there are other valves as well just in front of the rear wheel on p/s one I know is a pressure valve.
I have a fair understanding of how the system works the canister is marked as to what goes where. Tank, purge, and drain just not sure on the three other smaller lines routing on the valve at the canister which I believe is the purge valve
I have searched google images and other manuals but no luck. it would help if the guy that put it in would give a definitive answer as to what year the tank came out of
as that would help.


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Jan 10, 2015, 10:11 PM

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Still need to know if it is Base, Limited, or Sport.





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toolman0007
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Jan 10, 2015, 10:18 PM

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it has nothing that I see that indicates what your asking other than it's a legacy outback with the 2500 in it


toolman0007
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Jan 11, 2015, 1:08 PM

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can anyone answer how much truth there is to the weight of a charcoal canister on this Subaru normal operating weight 2.5 lbs anything from 3.5 to 4.0 is considered no good


toolman0007
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Jan 11, 2015, 2:29 PM

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how about any info that will put my hands on a manual that shows the actual setup of the evap system. have a Haynes that suppose to cover from 90-99 but what it shows is not even close to what is actualy in the 98


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Jan 11, 2015, 2:33 PM

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toolman0007
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Jan 11, 2015, 3:28 PM

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I use to use alldata when I was doing collision work. this was some years back. Just paid for it to cover the vehicle in question and just wanted to thank you for some
more money spent that got me NOTHING !!. anything covering the fuel tank or Evap or canister none of it depicts what this car actually has in it or how it is laid out or how the hoses are routed


Hammer Time
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Jan 11, 2015, 3:37 PM

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Just paid for it to cover the vehicle in question and just wanted to thank you for some
more money spent that got me NOTHING !!.


Every time you come here you cause some kind of problem or issue and I'm getting real tired of it. One more stupid post or insult and you can get your help elsewhere.



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toolman0007
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Jan 11, 2015, 4:17 PM

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well I'm sorry hammer time but you have yet to impress me with your Knowledge or skills from day one. even back when I had my chevy 3500 you had me checking all sorts of things wasting my time with a start issue. and what I learned on that one was the temp sensor is like the first thing on chevy to tell everything else in the system what to do. and you never mentioned it. and I got that from a tech from around the corner. I do appreciate
the link to alldata sadly it has nothing to offer. I am just a bit frustrated and irritated that getting proper info and accurate diagrams for this vehicle just can't be found, trust me I have spent more than 10 hours
searching . I even paid for another down loadable manual in pdf form and still no accurate diagrams that cover this vehicle. oh and yes I am still working on that ranger pickup I started just got the bare frame painted and will start putting it all back together in the next two weeks. ya know the one you said could not be done. when hundreds of others have done it


toolman0007
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Jan 11, 2015, 4:22 PM

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just wanted to add I believe this site is designed to solve problems and educate others, not to create them I think is sad that so many have to seek profit from every little tid bit of info this world has.
and it's nice seeing sites like this one still up and running.


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Jan 11, 2015, 4:29 PM

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Alright.............
It's very obvious that you aren't satisfied with the free help you get here so I think you should look elsewhere. I've had quite enough of your crap and sarcasm.



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