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Hi, new here - 66 Cadillac Hearse
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Apr 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
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It would really,really,be a good idea to take a automotive shop course at a local community college. Often they will use a students car for hands on trining . With the knowledge you will gain you will be able to do more and more. And what you do have to outsource you will be able to talk the talk and spot rip offs. You have the desire and drive ,a little knowledge will go a long way. As far as $$$$ to do thiis .Talk to a admisssions /financial aid (loans & grants)person.
LIFE'S SHORT GO FISH
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Lydia_Robinvale
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May 3, 2013, 11:53 AM
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Right, so just to update, I have some new job prospects so I may have extra money in the coming couple of weeks to do some work on her! Finally.
In other news, the exhaust leak from under the hoo somewhere has become so terrible that I can't dive her for linger periods than 29 minutes because it starts to make me physically ill. I'm assuming that's bad.
The first thing I have to do is take care of her parking tickets. As soon as I'm able to do that, I wi sart going through her systems and figuring out what needs to be done. I've enlisted the help of an independent mechanic in my area who is interested in helping me for a very modest fee. Mostly diagnostic help. So I wi keep you guys updated..
We decided to try and sell the other hearse. We have a possible buyer but if we doesn't want it and no one else does we may keep him, but probably not. I will be sad to see him go.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 3, 2013, 12:35 PM
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Lydia - all fun and joking aside you can't drive that anymore until fixed or you'll get a ride in the back of one. Carbon monoxide can cause headaches, red skin, but leaves no odor on its own and is deadly! STOP DRIVING IT AT ALL TILL THAT IS FIXED NO MATTER WHAT ELSE IS WRONG WITH THE THING! You may not care but how about if you pass out while driving and hurt or kill someone? C'mon girl!
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Lydia_Robinvale
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May 3, 2013, 12:40 PM
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I agree totally. I never drive in er alone, but last night was really scary. I started getting dizzy and feeling really yuck.. Headache and such. I'm only going to drive her to move her to the other side of the street when the street sweeper comes (or else I'll get another ticket!) and that will be it.
I'm happy I will be able to give her attention now though. We have a buyer who may be interested in Orwell and she's coming to see it on the 12th. They run a hearse tour business in Arizona. I'm afrai she won't want him though, but I'll put him on Craigslist if I have to.
What could cause such a horrible leak? It smells terrible too so the whole no odor thing is moot.. She smells like poo-poo lol
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May 3, 2013, 2:29 PM
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There should be black soot marks where the exhaust leak is. Could be an exhaust manifold, the gasket to hold it to the block, or anywhere along the pipe that could get the raw exhaust into the car. Need to get a good look at it. The noise itself should give you an area to look. I usually get my hand near it while running (not too close or you get burned) to feel for the puffs of air escaping through the leak.
The carbon monoxide is odorless. The rest of the crap in raw exhaust isn't. You'll get hurt trying to drive it more than to move to the other side of the street.
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 3, 2013, 2:39 PM
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TOO IMPORTANT LYDIA! THE DEADLY STUFF YOU CAN'T SMELL AS WE'VE SAID! EXHAUST ODOR YOU CAN. HEY! YOU HAVE A HOLE IN THE FLOOR TOO. THE HEADACHE IS THE FIRST CLUE I THINK. IF LIGHT SKINNED YOU MAY TURN RED AND NOT HAVE THE SENSE TO NOTICE ANYWAY!
DON'T THINK DRIVING IT MORE THAN TO MOVE IT WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE LEAK IS SAFE. EVEN OPEN WINDOWS MAY NOT WORK. NOT GOOD. ESPECIALLY A NON SMOGGED VEHICLE HAS LOTS OF CARBON MONOXIDE AND WOULDN'T TAKE LONG. PLEASE - DON'T FOOL AROUND WITH THIS,
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Lydia_Robinvale
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May 3, 2013, 7:06 PM
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Thanks for all your concern everyone.
Don't worry, I'm not going to drive her anymore except to move it. The leak is much, much worse than I remember it. So, after I get home from Maine next week I am going to wait a week or so till I have some $$ and take her in for a total rundown.
Am I supposed to feel puffs of air when the engine is running when I remove the orange oil cap? I read somewhere that that designates blowback, which is an indication of engine health, but I could be looking in the wrong place. If it is true though, I may as well replace the engine because its basically a steady stream of blowing air, and not just "puffs". I'm probably doing it wrong though.
As I said, I'm excited to finally be able to sort out her problems. I just hope I don't run into anything crazy serious along the way. I will scrimp and save If I have to rebuild the engine, tranny.. Whatever. Nothing but the best for Dusty :)
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 4, 2013, 12:28 AM
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Exhaust issues first! You can get in trouble without hearing leaks never mind this.
Quote">>Am I supposed to feel puffs of air when the engine is running when I remove the orange oil cap?<<" I think '66 models used vented oil caps with a steel wool inside to help return any oil rather than make a mess. There is some "normal" blow-by in an engine but when excessive indicates a tired, worn engine, usually too much gets by rings but it wouldn't be just rings to solve. Make sure PCV valve and hose are working and have suction - it does have a PCV valve in 1966. Think that started in 1964 on all vehicles.
You can fake it for a good while with a worn engine of the vintage but want to hear the exhaust is done first and we can take on that.
You'll love Maine if you've never been. Great weather here lately and best month IMO. Pre Memorial Day is great. Brace for cold nights!
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Lydia_Robinvale
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May 4, 2013, 12:39 AM
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Oh ok .. Don't know why pcv valve and hose are but will look those up.
I was born and raised in Maine actually :) I'm visiting my parents.
One of the mechanics the hearse club uses is way expensive but he does the best work around. I'm going to have him take a look at it when I get back. Is there perhaps a checklist of things you think I should ask him definitely? I suppose I should just make a list, I'll just forget if I don't :P
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Tom Greenleaf
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May 4, 2013, 1:06 AM
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PCV = "Positive Crankcase Ventilation" which is a little metal (might be a plastic now) valve to suck the fumes out of the air in all the places above sitting oil in the oil pan that includes the valve covers. Some went right into oil cap, more were into a rubber grommet on valve cover. It will be a larger rubber hose that ends up at base of carb not the one that goes to the brake booster. If you pulled that out you should feel suction. If not clean out with carb cleaner, replace hose clean or replace valve till it rattles in your hand. Pretty basic thing. Those were the first and only emission control for a while.
Maine! Where from? I've been all over it and two siblings there now - to retire there too. I can be at the Piscataqua bridge in about 1.2 hours from here which is the ME/NH border for readers when heading North on I-95 from MA where I am. Great state,
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May 4, 2013, 8:18 AM
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Tom, this is a 66 and as I recall they used the oil fill area with a little screen on it for PCV.
If you're getting a lot of air coming out of that when running, then you have a lot of blowby. What it is it combustion gasses getting past your piston rings into the crankcase. Even a healthy engine will have a small amount, but a lot of blowby indicates a worn out engine.
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Tom Greenleaf
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Remember these cars new. Crankcase venting was just a stink tube to the ground before PCV idea. I think all sold had to use one and not that pipe. It was oil filler caps that many just pushed on and would spit some thru the steel wool to catch it. Soon after that they closed that up too for sealed PCV.
Some other mandated changes by model year for all was seat belts, 1964. Owned cars with none and cars without padded dash boards even. All metal.
Right at oil Embargo of 1973 emissions got more serious exactly when gas prices doubled and the first non war gas lines were common. 1972? - or close Iraq instantly stopped selling crude to the US all at once. Pres. Nixon put national speed limit to 50 MPH not long later to be national 55 as truckers really complained.
I used to know when some total change year was for what and only know some. 5MPH bumper law for all cars (not trucks) in 1973. Meant the car had to sustain hitting a cement wall at 5 MPH with no damage. That only lasted till about 1979 models or so. Not sure but was 2.5 MPH to lighten the cars.
Not sure if a Hearse or Limo had to comply with everything either so some unknowns?? Trucks were exempt from lots of things till much later as there was a day a truck was specifically to work with not multitask as plain transportation too.
For now if a removed oil cap on a 66 blows out noticeably it isn't a good sign,
Tom
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