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NewbieMechanic
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Mar 30, 2014, 7:52 PM

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Hello all, hope this is the right section the forums have a lot of categories....

Is there a resource available (Book, website, etc.) that lists labor time averages per job on automotive repair? For example look up Oil Change and it list 30-40 minutes as the average job time?

Even a series of books where I would have to find one for my year/make/model of car would be fine.


(This post was edited by NewbieMechanic on Mar 30, 2014, 7:53 PM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 30, 2014, 11:27 PM

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Your example still totally depends on the vehicle. Generally you set a flat rate for a "lube" service if advertising with a disclaimer of up to so many quarts, trucks, SUVs, 4X4 or AWD extra.


There sure are listed times for what it should take to perform a given task based on adequate tools, equipment and the experience. Your user name suggest you are just beginning at least the estimating for what something will cost and folks sure want to know.


That's a problem sometimes or many times as vehicles get older some are so "rust challenged" that just a silly nut or bolt if broken off sometimes YOUR mistake can waste a ton of time.


The time books you would purchase to have at your beck and call.


What is your work situation? Self employed or asking what you should be paid for certain work?


T



NewbieMechanic
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Mar 30, 2014, 11:35 PM

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The time books you would purchase to have at your beck and call.


Basically I want to know the name of these books mentioned so I can order some. I want to purchase them for a family member of mine who was talking about them. I know the makes and models of his personal vehicles and wanted to purchase the books for his own vehicles (I'm sure he will obtain more for a collection later on down the road but yes, he is just beginning to do work out of his own garage)

EDIT: Yeah an oil change would be a vague example as well, sorry, I'm not the mechanic haha! He mentioned he did want them to know what the industry standard time was for completing a task for two reasons:

- To compare the time it takes him to complete various tasks with industry standards

- To not overcharge labor estimates due to him possibly taking longer then the industry standard time until he gets up to par


(This post was edited by NewbieMechanic on Mar 30, 2014, 11:54 PM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 31, 2014, 12:04 AM

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There will be assorted sources and IMO frequently all wrong but shops use them all the time - I never did - ever! Captive group though that didn't ask very often but just wanted a general idea. That I could guess for routine things or common things.


Tons of stuff just noticed out there AYOR with any of it. Pick an hourly rate first or a minimum charge for XYZ checks or whatevers and you eat what takes too long and win with what you can beat the clock on if going that route.


Time books thru sources like AllData, Mitchells, Motor, Chiltons used to do paper books and others. The others here I hope will say which they like the best.


If out of own place working alone it could be tough to beat listed times. It's tricky. How do you factor ordering parts time, waiting for them or stop and go get them, clean up time, paper work time to just write it up - yikes it never ends but you do have to come up with some prices or a range of what something will cost.


Jeez, then factor the unseen part way into something and shoot some horror shows itself while underway you couldn't have known until you got there.


Just look for assorted parts prices for plain filters, brake parts, remanufactured or new. A must is a good understanding and communication with a customer and always play fair or the venture will fail,


T



NewbieMechanic
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Mar 31, 2014, 12:17 AM

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Time books thru sources like AllData, Mitchells, Motor, Chiltons used to do paper books and others. The others here I hope will say which they like the best.


I have heard of Chiltons before now that you mention it maybe give them a look as well as your other suggestions. I'm also going to refer him to this thread via email so he can see the other information you have provided.

Thanks very much for the help, I appreciate it and will let you know the outcome (or maybe just convince him to register here as well, seems to be a valuable resource)


Tom Greenleaf
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Mar 31, 2014, 12:37 AM

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Yes - have him sign up. Regulars here are from all over, retired, self employed, shop owners with assorted experiences and strong areas.


I suggest if going out alone that first you get real acquainted with the other shops and the specialty shops. You can get all messed up over the stillest things and need outside help.


Alone you could take on somethings you would never do totally and get a trade discount for frequent stuff like tires if you choose not to own and deal with machines and storing tires that plain takes room.


It's tough. You could just do routine service like oil changes and find simple drain plugs ruined before and cracked up oil pans snowballing into a monster and need to know how to get out of that while still keeping a customer informed and happy.


Alone factor in total down time or seasonal rushes such as first super cold days or first hot days the weak items show themselves all at once sometimes.


Long done with any of this really but some of my own stuff and some I do with other shops or even for them for pest work that can take too long or tie up space costing a fortune vs what could be done in that space - lots to think about,


T



Discretesignals
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Mar 31, 2014, 4:43 AM

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- To compare the time it takes him to complete various tasks with industry standards

- To not overcharge labor estimates due to him possibly taking longer then the industry standard time until he gets up to par


This might be a good thing. It will make him realize how hard it is to make time. Especially when you factor in diagnosing, other factors as Tom mentioned, and problems you can run into that will slow the job down. Lets not forget you have to make that time and perform a quality job. Tell him to try and make time under the warranty labor times and he'll see what is actually behind the black curtain in the land of the automotive mechanics flat rate system.





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