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When i try to shift its like the gears arent there


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Mercedes200d
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Apr 10, 2014, 7:06 PM

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I have a problem with my 1968 mercedes 200d, it has a manual transmission and when i try to shift its like the gears arent even there. It can still kind of go into gear but there is definitely something wrong. It seems as though there is no reverse at all and i can move the shifting lever in a complete circular motion.


Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 10, 2014, 9:36 PM

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At first I would have said a total clutch wear out but you said it just shift around in a circular motion it must have just come disconnected shifter to trans.


Guesses only for this by age and make: Some you might be able to gain access from interior and find a plate bolted down and able to remove bellows to the shifter for a look.


Guessing continued: It probably has a pin on a "U" something to actuate parts to shift and has fallen out and might see the problem. The fix is likely to require taking trans out and apart to find probably like a wrist pin and any small parts broken removed.


This is if the shifter is on the console. If it shifts from steering column or a push, pull, twist (usually a French idea) in and out of dash you might see those from underhood and or at side on the trans. Either way look for how it's disconnected and you would have to, to remove the transmission and that's the spot I'm thinking of so far,


T


(Slight chance I have a small section of a now ancient paper Chiltons "Trade Edition" {years 1961-1969} on just how this is set up?)



Mercedes200d
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Apr 10, 2014, 9:41 PM

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So i would ultimately have to remove the transmission to access the problem? Or is there some other way? I'm going to look at it in the morning and see what i can do then ill be back with more information if i find anything.

Thanks for the information and reply!


Mercedes200d
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Apr 10, 2014, 9:43 PM

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And also it does shift from the steering column.


Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 10, 2014, 11:15 PM

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Can only speak of generalities. Column shifters you would see motion just looking under the hood and should be all rods and I call them tumblers on the shaft of the column. From there one or two rods went on to the side of the transmissions - almost all I ever dealt with (no Mercedes cars of those years) but would check out the very few around.


I think you'll find this is all external to the trans itself just a linkage failure that could be as simple as a snap ring some retainer for a hardware part. Just have a helper operate it while you watch and it may just show what the issue is. If a rod could fall right off side of trans it would leave a shifter feeling like is wasn't even part of the car anymore.


More educated guessing sorry: Instead of just cotter pins and such look for Allen headed things or recessed little screws for some Euro hardware things.


Side note on some of these cars: Many came with a pretty decent tool bag of assorted stuff. Hope it's still in it,


T


T



Mercedes200d
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Apr 11, 2014, 12:38 PM

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I've looked it over this morning and i can clearly see the problem. All that has happened is the rod that connects the shifting to the transmission has popped off and is an easy fix.

Thanks for you're help, i appreciate it!


Hammer Time
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Apr 11, 2014, 12:42 PM

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Sounds good. We'll close this now as solved.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 11, 2014, 12:44 PM

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Glad to hear it and sorry it took me so long to get the idea of right where to look. I expected something simple like that. Just whatever holds it in place do use correct stuff as said earlier possibly just hardware store something if anything at all needed.


Good luck, Tom







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