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spidreant
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Apr 18, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Steering shaft Sign In

OKay so after a lot of struggle to remove the old steering shaft, the end where the spline is on the one shaft doesnt seem to line with the other one, is there a way to adjust it?
i cant seem to take it apart so i match it up with my old one

Nissan Altima 2006 2.5

Thank you for time!


(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Apr 19, 2020, 7:44 AM)


Hammer Time
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Apr 19, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Re: Steering shaft Sign In

Not sure what you are referring to.

Do you mean the joint where it attaches to the rack or further up the column?

Photos would help.



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Apr 19, 2020, 5:30 AM

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">doesn't line up with the other"<
Steering things that have splines about anything made not just vehicles are indexed to be ONLY able in the right spot or indexed only you could put parts together and say only steer one way not the other or equally each way.


The "guess du jour" (of the day) is you aren't lined up to the correct spline so it will not fit that way. So look harder to try again,


T



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Apr 19, 2020, 7:01 AM

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As Tom pointed out, that should be an indexed spline. If you examine in closely you will likely find a single spline of double width that has to be matched up with the mating shaft.



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(This post was edited by Hammer Time on Apr 19, 2020, 7:02 AM)


spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Re: Steering shaft Sign In

sorry i dont exactly understand what you guys mean...



spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:25 AM

Post #6 of 25 (498 views)
Re: Steering shaft Sign In

im pretty sure everythin is lined up correctly
i put the ujoint in the spline lined up with the indicator tab
but the telescopic spline wont go in the ujoint attahed to the steering wheel

im sorry i dont know what the terms...



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Apr 19, 2020, 7:26 AM

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OK, now there is still confusion. Are you trying to replace that assembly or are you separating the 2 parts of the shaft. Those shafts are not designed to be taken apart. They may have a slide stop built into them as they are designed as a safety feature to allow the column to collapse during a collision.



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spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:28 AM

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yes im trying to seperate them because it wont go into the socket unless i turn the turn the steering wheel which i know i cant


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Apr 19, 2020, 7:28 AM

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That connection only goes one way also, assuming you have the correct part.



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spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:33 AM

Post #10 of 25 (484 views)
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in that image they perfectly lined up, but the telescopic shaft is not
the old one is turned more right


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Apr 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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This isn't rocket science. Either the new and old shafts are identical, or they are not. If they are identical, then they will go back together.

You can see the flat spot that has to line up with the pinch bolt. That's about it.

Scrub the paint off if that helps.



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spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:39 AM

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ok so what you are saying is the part is no good?


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Apr 19, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I can't answer that. You are the one that is going to have to match them up to determine that.

PS, these pictures are getting to large and making the thread too hard to read so I will be deleting some of them.

Reduce the size if you want to repost them.



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spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Re: Steering shaft Sign In

ok so if they are not identical then it wont fit correct?


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Apr 19, 2020, 7:51 AM

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OK, we are just beating a dead horse here now.
Obviously, you can't put a square peg into a round hole so if the shape of the shaft your are trying to insert is different, then it won't fit. If the paint is just making it too tight, then remove the paint.

This is just common sense approach you need here.



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spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Re: Steering shaft Sign In

ok i understand this is obvious to you, but not so much to me..
dont have to be rude about it, im genuinely trying to solve a problem here
in the picture above i lined them up exactly and you can see its wayyy off

so my question was is it no good if it isnt lined up


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Apr 19, 2020, 7:59 AM

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If the orientation of the splines is different, then either someone messed with it or it is the wrong part.

A certain amount can be adjusted back to center during wheel alignment after the install.



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spidreant
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Apr 19, 2020, 8:03 AM

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ok thank you hammer time for you quick responses much obliged!


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Apr 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Late observation is the U-joint end doesn't match right out of gate that part will NOT work if the "end" that isn't behaving the other is then next problem. Wrong part IMO or improperly done/made for you exact needs,


T



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Apr 19, 2020, 9:41 AM

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I'm not seeing a problem on the other end but you can try it onto the rack first to eliminate any question.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 19, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Re: Steering shaft Sign In

Post 5's pic: Look at the holes to bolt that end even if you turned that for the "splined" end sure seems it would be off - even if it fit? I question that "repair" of the joint or whole part - this stuff is so rare I guess usually an accident to wreck this stuff so very limited hands on for this exact but like that for tons of thing, T


PS: Like me I oil those if old so U-joints or splines unseen while good stay that way!



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Apr 19, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Looks to be just a different style of pinch joint.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 19, 2020, 10:20 AM

Post #23 of 25 (377 views)
Re: Steering shaft Sign In

Yes or dirty? Still I plead IDK if that matters for centering part if it does fit. I would reject a car/veh that needed this rather it's wrecked beyond what I would take on probably collapsed column you mentioned! Damage not worn? T


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Apr 19, 2020, 10:23 AM

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The U-joints do wear out or seize up Tom.



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Tom Greenleaf
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Apr 19, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Chance or that I oil ALL I ever saw when older and me or customer expects years more out of a vehicle. So none in my hands on they all lasted if good when bought I would check those things so not be in this jam, T






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