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converting a Robinair 17400b to r132a


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jonaq
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Jun 5, 2013, 7:44 AM

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I picked up a Robinair 17500b at an auction and want to convert it over to 132a. I will be using it only on my own vehicles. I know I need new filters, and fittings. My question is the compressor. I have heard conflicting stories about the oil. Some say that the oil in the compressor it is not compatable, some it does not matter because it is self contained and will not mix with the auto system. Has anyone done this, if so what have you done.
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Discretesignals
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Jun 5, 2013, 8:36 AM

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You should contact Robin Air and talk to one of their representatives.



Quoted from EPA about equipment conversions.


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Converting CFC-12 Equipment for Use with HFC-134a

EPA regulations prohibit technicians from changing fittings on the same unit back and forth so that the unit is used for CFC-12 in the morning, HFC-134a in the afternoon, then back to CFC-12 again, etc.

EPA regulations specify that when equipment is converted for use with a new refrigerant, the converted unit must be able to meet the applicable equipment standard set forth in the regulations. CFC-12 equipment may be permanently converted for use with HFC-134a under certain conditions. EPA intends to issue regulations placing certain restrictions on these retrofits in the future. Those restrictions may require that the manufacturer's service representative rather than the automotive service technician perform the retrofit, that a unit may only be retrofitted if retrofit procedures have been certified by an independent testing laboratory such as Underwriters Laboratories, and that an appropriate label is affixed to the unit. In addition, the retrofitted unit must meet the technical specifications of SAE standard J2210 and must have the capacity to purify used refrigerant to SAE standard J2099 for safe and direct return to the air conditioner following repairs.

Currently, however, in the absence of any EPA regulations, a service facility may perform such a retrofit, or may have the equipment manufacturer's service representative perform the retrofit, as long as the fittings are changed in accordance with EPA's Significant New Alternative Policy (SNAP) program regulations. The Agency cautions technicians, however, that even though recovering a given refrigerant using permanently converted equipment is legal, it may not be technically desirable. The equipment is designed to be compatible with specific refrigerants, and incompatible materials may cause short circuits, damage to seals, and compressor failure. Technicians should check with the recovery equipment manufacturer for recommendations about the recovery of refrigerants other than the refrigerant the equipment was originally intended to recover. Conversion of recovery equipment for use with other refrigerants may also invalidate any warranties offered by the equipment manufacturer.






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jonaq
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Jun 5, 2013, 10:50 AM

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called Robinair, they were not helpful at all






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