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Theracay
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Jan 19, 2015, 9:58 PM

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taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

I'm having trouble taking off the belts/pulleys on my car
My car is

1996
Daihatsu
Charade G200
1300cc HC-E

Here is a picture. Don't know if it will show. ( it does now)

There's bolts in the middle of pulleys but it just spins the pulley.


(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Jan 20, 2015, 5:43 AM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 19, 2015, 11:08 PM

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Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

No pic + they don't sell this car here. Basics still: You are messing with the wrong bolt - that isn't where belt tension is adjusted but rather probably just holding the pulley to a bracket. Look harder or behind the area,


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Discretesignals
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Jan 20, 2015, 5:39 AM

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Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

You really should get hold of some service information that has the procedure for removing and installing the belts.





Since we volunteer our time and knowledge, we ask for you to please follow up when a problem is resolved.

(This post was edited by Discretesignals on Jan 20, 2015, 5:40 AM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 20, 2015, 5:59 AM

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Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

Trying sport to study pic and figure that out. Look at it. Seem orange belt is adjusted by alternator - right? The belt with the blue stripes on it possibly adjust from the back not the bolt that just holds the pulley on OR - perhaps they both snug up with adjustment of one. Haven't seen that since some "V" belt set ups - entirely not this style.


As Discretesignals suggested, specific info for the exact vehicle and car would really help but you should see or feel something possibly from behind the two with the blue stripes.


Can only speak of generalities for this without being right there. Most pulley bolts just hold them tight and not involved in the adjustment just there holding it in place securely and must do that too.


They look new. What did you do go get them off? If you just removed the bolt(s) to a pulley and put a new belt on somehow that both should have exposed the way and WASN'T the way to adjust anything IMO.


More: The plate if used to bolt on those pulleys is probably the adjustment bracket and quite stuck right where it is? Again, look on back side of those brackets - pic good but needs all angles of views to guess any better for you,


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Theracay
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Jan 20, 2015, 11:38 AM

Post #5 of 8 (920 views)
Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

Thanks Tom, the tensioner bolt for the power steering belt was indeed on the other side at the back of it.
I have found the tension bolt for the alternator now aswell. Have to jack the car up later today to try it.

Thanks for the help guys!


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 20, 2015, 12:45 PM

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Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

Call that totally a lucky guess but was right so far.


Now - Belts seem new so proper adjustment is still important. New belts will break in or stretch some. Unless you do the same belts and same application all the time don't guess at how much too tight is right as that can and will harm bearings on things the drive.


Rather see you go back and snug up usually if anything just once after some time of using the car. Pulleys should not spin by hand (engine off of course) or have too much "deflection" (may need to look that up) between longest distance between pulleys.


Seems you will be all set. Do check it later or if any unusual noises arise,


T



Theracay
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Jan 21, 2015, 8:01 PM

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Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

Hi guys, this isn't really related to the pulleys and belts issue, but I felt it's best to continue on this thread instead of starting a new one.

Whilst loosening the alternator some loose piece of metal fell and I think perhaps it fell into the alternator. Don't really know why it was there sitting on top of the alternator. My alternator is hidden under my power steering pump so I was just kind of blindly feeling around on top of the alternator and being my clumsy self, I fumbled it (perhaps into the alternator).

So I tried to take off the alternator from the bottom, but there's no space. So I have to take off the power steering pump from the top to remove the alternator.
However, I can't seem to loosen this nut on a hose connected to the power steering pump (see pic). The hose is metallic and I'm not positive where it leads. I'm thinking because it's metallic it may not be safe to remove. Is it safe to use more force to loosen this nut?


Also, should I be really worried about something that might have fallen into the alternator, or is it no big deal? I'm a bit worried to connect it back up and to try and start the car.


(This post was edited by Theracay on Jan 21, 2015, 8:02 PM)


Tom Greenleaf
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Jan 21, 2015, 8:43 PM

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Re: taking off belts/pulleys on car Sign In

Please see if you can shrink your pics as
it makes it very hard to read script too.
1. By the first pic up top you can get the alternator out
by the direction you took that pick. Battery negative cable off
then the electrical things on back an or plug in out of sight,
bolt on bottom (larger one) needs to slide out and will fight
a bit with a sleeve in the middle there. Then top bolt out and remove
from bottom probably. Shake alternator off car every which way
till the item falls out or be watching for it while working to get whole
thing out.
If convinced you can or send out alternator to be taken apart.
It matters both that some foreign thing can't be inside it AND WHAT THE
HECK WAS IT AS IT WAS NEEDED SOMEWHERE?


The PS hose/nut (PS= power steering) you are showing is a flare nut. That one you would hold the larger hex, then apply
turning force with a flare nut wrench (special wrench) and finish removing it with probably
a plain open end wrench. That the high pressure line to PS and would only just drip fluid out
to fill properly later and keep debris out.
The flare wrenches, funky magnetic pick up tools, dental type stuff and tools to extract
items fallen out of place somehow is an assortment of it's own. Most I dare say buy things a few
at a time as needed or that's what I did.


You are or have gotten in some trouble here basically over changing belts. Sorry it's being a pest
and it happens at risks like this. If you short out that alternator with metal debris unknown inside
there's no telling what might go wrong MORE than just wrecking the alternator!
More: If PS pump and that line must come out, put some penetrating oil on the tube to the flare
nut now as it will need to turn free by hand at least when going back on. Not sure how or if it's also
sealed with an "O" ring or very hard to see small plastic flat washer type seal at end and may not
have a clue until it's out just how that one works.
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Still don't think you have to remove it. Move unit whole, tilt engine if need be or something else.
Whatever it takes. Take belts back off and get a better look and try harder to get item out or
at least find out what is missing that it could be? Spin alternator without belt perhaps. All
this now with battery disconnected for the alternator mystery. I wouldn't start this engine till this
is known either.


Again, please try to reduce size of your last pic. First one I'll show again
fits in one view. I'm trying to type only to the left
so you can read without constant scrolling all depends on what devices
we are using.


Here's your first picture again that should fit or I'll
remove it.

Carry on. Find the missing part. If you really wonder or can't find it chances are it will
show up as a problem with something you didn't notice yet.


Damn - didn't need this problem for this, Tom






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