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car won't start unless I push start (pop the clutch)


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tilopa
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Dec 8, 2012, 11:47 AM

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Toyota Camry

The starter seems fine, when I turn the key the starter cranks full on and the car acts like it is not getting fuel. But when I push it down a hill and pop the clutch it starts easily. What could this be?
Thanks.


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Dec 8, 2012, 12:05 PM

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Check for bad connection at the battery and fuse block. Make sure your battery connections are clean and tight. Check for bad grounds. Maybe there is resistance in the circuits that feed power to the devices that control the operation of the engine. When you use the starter the system voltage drops down to 9-10 volts and with the added resistance in the power circuits to engine control devices they aren't getting enough current to operate. Push starting bypasses the starter motor, so those device are able to get more battery voltage which might be enough even though there is resistance.





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tilopa
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Dec 8, 2012, 5:31 PM

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Thanks.

I just checked the wiring from the battery and fuse box and everything looked good, all tight and no funny looking wires. Tried looking for the starter solenoidal to see if it looked ok but could not find it. The starter looks rather small, but I guess for a 2.0 liter 4 cyl it does not need much.

I'm just curious what powers the fuel injection system? When I turn the key does the starter turn the crank which powers the fuel injection via some pulley system. Forgive my ignorance, I'm trying to learn this stuff. If just feels like I'm not getting fuel into the engine.


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Dec 8, 2012, 6:17 PM

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If the engine is cranking, then you probably don't have a problem with the starter circuit.

Another thing that comes to mind is that the starter switch allows power to go to the starter relay and also the circuits that feed the computer and other devices that have to have power when the engine is cranking. It's possible that you don't have power to engine controls when the ignition switch is in the start position, but has power when the ignition switch is in the ON position. You need to get hold of a volt meter and wiring schematic to see if you have power at those devices in the start position.





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Tom Greenleaf
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Dec 9, 2012, 5:47 AM

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Far out thought - like me: Is this car almost out of gas all the time or at this time? If so maybe the pick up in the tank can't reach the fuel!

Did a ton of road calls for broken down or no start vehicles. They may still list it but top several are battery low or failed, belts, tires w flat spare, hoses, overheats AND OUT OF GAS!



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