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kate
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Hi all
New to this forum, have a real conudrum and not sure if this is in the right place.
Have an escort silver grey 'N' reg so not your latest kid on the block.Ha!
Suddenly had a blistering of the paint under the fuel Cap but starting along the join of the plastic bumper.No petrol on the rim of cap and no blistering in the immediate area beneath the cap,which suggests it is not coming out of the tank hole entrance,anyway am sure petrol would not be the cause, just starts along the join as though its spread along the join between the plastic bumper and metal part of car.
It certainly is some form of fluid, that has caused this.
I had it returned from MOT that needed some welding and new rear brakes. Just last week.
Any ideas????? Could this be from spilt brake fluid????? the welding whilst in the vicinity is not up against this section.
Your comments would be appreciated.
Granny kate
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If you could post a picture that might help a bit.
On the side like that I would have to agree that it may be some type of fluid contamination, usually primer issues show up on the hood & roof 1st. Problem being a lot of fluid contaminations take a while to show damage from the initial time it got on the paint.
Just from the area I would have to guess that gas (petro) got on it at some point and didn't get removed....................
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kate
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Mar 3, 2010, 11:35 PM
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 [/img]Thank you so much for reply,will try and take a shot today, am not too tekkie. will this forum just allow a direct click form Print screen????
In the area as you say it does look as though it could have been from a petrol fill up, but am very careful when lifting the gun out always tap it before returning it to the pump.
I did not think petrol would cause that amount of blistering though.
Kate
(This post was edited by kate on Mar 4, 2010, 4:44 AM)
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kate
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Mar 4, 2010, 4:48 AM
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Doh! Sorry I remembered about Link, but dont know how it came out twice.
Kate
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Pics seem to work easier as attachments for some - don't know why?
No matter - it came out fine - twice didn't hurt. It appears that only paint on the rubber/plastic of the bumper cover was damaged. So far, plain gasoline hasn't done that to ORIGINAL paint. If known or a repainted bumper skin then who knows what type was used as it appears to have only hurt that. Brake fluid can dissolve some types of paint and a different type could be on that OR spilt gas but as said, so far gasoline only I've just noticed wax removed and re-waxing was enough. When if that happens to me I quickly wash it right off.
I also worry about additives like harsh injector cleaner or something that are designed to break down tough stuff in fuel but untested on paint - cross fingers!
This is damage and would need a repaint IMO. Not sure why brake fluid would be in the area to do rear brake work??
T
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kate
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Mar 4, 2010, 7:01 AM
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Hi Tom Thanks,
This is so weird, as we have had this car three years, nothing has been done by us, re painting, on last visit to garage, they only did service, new rear brakes and some welding underneath that needed reseal.
As I say we are very careful when filling petrol, the only thing we can think is, may be there is a leak in the actual seal connecting the pipe down to the tank.
We never have a full tank anyway as being geriatric|(|Ha!!!) the car doesn't get used daily.
Hubby suggests cleaning all the gunk on the underside as if there is a leak , theory is it is soaking into all the gunk and then oozing through the join.
But why blister now??????? nothings changed in the last three years, other than this last work and blistering appeared about a week later.
Maybe it will remain a mystery!!!!
Kate
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This would be a dangerous place to do welding with gas tank, filler neck right there. I can't say with any certainty how, what or why this happened. You express that you don't think it was there before this work so perhaps just go back and bring it up and hope if they did possibly do something that caused this that they'll just play fair or be able to explain it for you to your satisfaction.
It's impossible for me personally to know but the pic sure shows that those bubbles will shed paint and be uglier soon.
You may be surprised that it's something they will say could have happened from what they did and take care of it. If not a fight would be a no win situation in my opinion. Good luck with it,
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kate
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Mar 4, 2010, 10:14 AM
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Thanks again Tom
Its always good to have anothers opinion.
Garage cannot understand why and have never come across it before, like we all say it does look like a spillage, but what????The million dollar question.
They are not obstructive and asked us to keep an eye on it and come back,(to see if anything further spreads).
The welding work was away from the tank not on top of it. They consider the work they did would not have caused it.
As you say it is only going to get worse some paint repair is on the cards.
If I ever get an answer I will post back for any other unfortunate.
Take care
Kate
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Kate,
Check - but it seems to be on plastic body part so rusting out wouldn't be an issue if so (check with magnet if unsure) and just cosmetic. I can see why nobody can really take blame. My best guess it was a solvent to clean the fuel system up and that's as close as I can get??
When it bugs you enough, get an idea from a body repair shop as most mechanical shops don't do both but some do.
If that's the worst thing to happen this year we can be thankful!
Be well,
Tom
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I have to agree it looks like some type of spillage. If I had to guess I would say it was some type of fuel additive just due to the spot it is at. Those are more caustic than gasoline & could cause that type of damage, also since they are in bottles it would be a lot easier to spill than gas.
Problem being, with out some very expensive chemical analysis we'll probably never know the cause.
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kate
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Hi Guys
It sure is a mystery, BUT yes it is only on the plastic,it looks as though it is seeping through that join, cause it is not affecting the metal part immediately above upto the rim of the cap.Even the inside rims of the filler cap are dry.
She's showing signs of rust around the wheel arches, so I, Ha! am the one that is handy with the paint work,have touched them up last year, will also do a rub , clean and repaint when weather is a bit warmer(Still minus2 UK Brr!!!) will then have a go at Plastic bumper.Providing there is no more, this will also give us the chance to scrape of the accumulation of road debris up around the underside inlet of petrol.
Incidentally just wondered if anyone supplies plastic wheel arch covers for protection? will start a new thread for that..
As I say will let you know if we ever find the cause.
Thanks for your input.
Kate
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